Given the negativity running through most of my posts in recent years, an easy and excusable mistake to make.

You would hope not. I admire the way that FA and Roo2 defend their club....god knows I've eaten enough bridge dwellers on the London board over the years, but there is a series of events at Bradford that do point in a worrying direction.

nope, probably far from it, and as much as we dont like to read it, there are some uncomfortable elements in the posts from gutterfax when you compare it to last year and whats going on in RL at other clubs like wakey and london.

But, as there is little I can do other than what I do every season, I will be doing it again - buy the season ticket, buy some merchandise around xmas and the start of the new season, turn up to as many games as I can afford to home and away (dont live anywhere near Bradford), and hope for the best, or at least some entertainment on the pitch.


It is worrying, but the people running the club now are not the ones who lied to us last year. Therefore at the moment Im prepared to belive most of what Im told, and give Mr Khan all the respect he deserves for putting his money in (where would we be without him?) and hope for the best, but with a touch of waryness, and put most of the issues down to new people climbing out of a hole that is deeper than they expected....but nothing will surprise me.

1. Where has the £200k wages figure come from? We clearly are well below the cap, and the admin costs are massively less than the previous regime, so please detail the 12x£200k dismissal of a winding up petition? Do you know that (thanks mainly to football clubs protecting the grossly overpaid footballers from all other creditors including HMRC) that sports clubs are jumped on by HMRC, hence the RFL (not superleague) interest in ensuring all clubs meet their commitments?

7. not your comment, gutterf*ck, someone else's, but I might as well deal with two onanissts at the same time. "Omar Khan is trying to make himself out to be some sort of hero". I have seen Ryan make the statement that OK is putting money in, not OK himself. I have seen Suttcliffe say that OK is not a sugar daddy, he has limited resources. Please show me where OK himself says that he is a hero. for the record, I do think he is a hero that needs the support of 10000 season ticket holders. and also for the record, I am not OK, I cannot cook a curry to save my life.

davyz999 yes as a Bulls fan i was concerned 3 months ago unlike the gutterpress, but look at what you are saying yourself, that the annual wages bill is £3360K. it just about hit that figure in the precap days when we had full stadiums and won the prizemoney for worldclub championships etc etc etc. Yes, be concerned, but dont get dragged down to the level of the gutter.

Where is Adeybull while all this is going on?

Bitter? About what?

In May of this year the club made 2014 season tickets available on an advance payment plan. Right when they knew the money wasn't their to pay tax bills & wages.

Was it Khan who put money in to cover these, or was it more borrowing?

Dangling from a rope somewhere? I'd imagine even he is finding it hard to put up with what's going on.

PS: and as for those plunkers that think a budget is reality, you try running a business, let alone a sports club business. The only thing that ensures a budget is reality is a SUGAR DADDY. eg Huddersfield..:

J.c: nearly said that myself. But wherever Sir Adey is, lets hope he rests in mental peace free from bullters.

Lets see what hard facts these stargazers have used for their astonishing predictions centuries before the events. Indeed, competition time, what is the collective noun for trolls that forecast events after they have happened?

The £200k monthly wage bill seems realistic, and I think I saw this figure in the T&A when the first monthly wage payment was missed. At the time I remember people making the same argument re the salary cap, and I seem to remember a RAB poster (maybe Mat or Maislebugs) stating that this figure was for all the staff, not just playing roster. And that this monthly figure had reduced from about £350k per month, from the year before.

The £200k a month wages figure has often been used in Bradford T&A pieces on the Bulls.

Why even mention he's putting money into a business he solely owns? You need to ask those who deal with him about his ego.

Khan has funded Sutcliffe's political career for years. Of course he's going to big his pal up. Whitcut has worked with Khan for years, of course he's going to big his pal up.

Tax bills don't get filed & forgotten about. They get ignored until court action is imminent. You forget that the previous incarnation of the Bulls went under owing HMRC £500k. How is football to blame for this?

You need to wise up about what is going on behind the scenes at your club

All the financial facts and figures in the world make little difference to the reality that after 10 home games this season, there was not enough money in the bank to pay the salaries of the staff. You can argue that the wages aren't 200k or any other pedantic points, the facts are that 11 months into the brave new dawn, the club was skint and reliant on the benevolence of Mr K. He is to be applauded BTW for actually stumping up some cash and this points to him being in it for the longer run.
As for those that say Mr K and his guys need time to learn how to run a sports club...... I'd suggest that's the last thing they need to do. Looking at other clubs in similar positions (mine included BTW), they need to be run like a business first and foremost....and that means not projecting wildly inflated ST sales to start with!

BTW...Did they miss wages payments and tax bill payments because they were too busy reading "RL Clubs for Dummies"?

What is the Bartercard deal? How on earth is it going to bring in £100k+ a year when there are only 55,000 cardholders worldwide?

Season tickets for 2014 being offered on payment plans in May? Juts when money was in short supply to pay tax bills & wages?

this is getting a bit repetitive but here we go:

How many and how much for these 2014 season tickets? how much was the tax bill and how much were the wages?

Seeing as you know so much about OKs personal finances, why dont you tell us instead of all this teasieweasie? and per the previous post, what loan for how much over what period with what covenants?

facts please boffaboy. When you have got them correct, you will then have the same facts that I used at the time to deduce the issues you are retrotractively commenting on four months later. Just try to get ahead of the game, not four months behind it.

davyz etc yes if £200k is what you are saying now after initially stating £280K, that is more realistic. Having written press releases myself and paid Pr companies to do an even better job, I am totally cynical about anything in the press (let alone bloggs) not substantiated by independent facts - as you may have guessed. so the £200k may actually be inflated with other things sort of wage related, just to show what a big amount can be paid off in one go. Which, all wages or not, is a big amount.