A terrible performance yes but up to a few weeks ago we were in with a chance of top 8. This team nearly matched last years effort. But last years team had Hargreaves, Burgess, Elima, Sibbit, Jeffries, Ainscough and others. Which were replaced by Foster Sidlow and 2 loanees. Sacking FC would be lunacy.
More worrying is the rumoured non-payment of wages.

But [iyou said[/i we would. You even had it all predicted out and everything. Very confident you were I seem to remember.

Don't tell me you got it horribly wrong?

Of course. You would have been certs for the GF otherwise.

does anyone know the ratio of games won to lost when Gale has been playing? might be just me but we seem to lose a lot more when he is playing.

We took 12 points (5 wins, 2 draws) from the first 10 games this season when Gale was out with injury. Since he returned from injury we have managed 8 points, winning 4 from 16 games.

Says it all really!!!

cheers for that Czech bull thought it was worse than that but still not a good ratio when he is supposed to be one of the key playmakers in the team.in fact its poor when you consider that Addy was just a stand in to cover his absence.

Yes it's not good, Gale actually missed two further games later in the season so we actually won 4 from 14 when he was in the team, just thought I would mention that before I get accused of misleading stats by our resident pedant.

Out of interest last season we had the same win ratio without him as we did with him playing.

if he gets to play at 7 next year, and I cant see anyone who will stop him, I would like to see how he goes with a more dominant set of forwards with the signings of Carvell and Ferguson and partnering Gaskell.and putting Sammut in at hooker where he can probably play off the cuff a bit more zipping about out of dummy half.

Don't fib.

You can use statistics to try to make any point, but they never tell the full story. However I could hardly accuse you of "misleading", as you didn't actually say where you thought your stats were leading.

According to my figures, Gale only played 11 full games this season plus 2 off the bench, coming back from his main injury layoff. If you ignore his greatly disrupted season then you are simply being unfair. This is, btw, of course not to say he'd have been brilliant had he played the full season, we'll never know.

Gale's longest run without absence was 4 games in July-Aug. This ended up LWWL, the losses being the 20-26 at Wigan, where we had 8 men out, we played damn well and he did, but lost in the last second; and when we were, simply, robbed by a point after a spirited performance at home to Catalans.

As I mentioned a week or two back, of the 11 games he has played, Gale has been our MoM on 4 occasions which isn't too shabby and of course results are all-important but when you are trying to debate the perceived value/ability of a player then how he played personally is as germane as the result.

I notice Luke Gale was rated 2nd behind only Chase at halfback in the current issue of Rugby League World form guide...

The only other Bulls player in the ratings was Nick Scruton.

Are you sure you weren`t reading the Beano? What about Brough?

Just back from Hols and it sounded like I didn't miss much at the weekend.

On the issue about some players not being happy with FC I'm not really surprised. It's been a long tough season, we missed the top 8, there's been uncertainty over wages twice and that's not going to make for a team of happy and contented players. If it did I'd be amazed.

It was always going to be tough this season. I'm not sure many realised just how tough. With a rookie coach and a wafer thin squad and to be quite honest a bit of a circus running things off the field I'm surprised we haven't done worse.

I can't say that Cummins was the wrong choice as obviously I don't know the budget, who applied and obviously FC was recommended by MP.

However, I was disappointed at the time we couldn't get somebody more experienced to at least steady the ship for a couple of years. The last appointment of a rookie coach didn't go too well for us, and I really am praying that FC can show us why he is rated so highly next year.