Three tries conceded down our right hand side from sets on our 22. Two scored by a and one by their winger.
All from the same move.
We were simply outnumbered 3 times.
FFS this is basic lack of covering

it is; we often concede tries when we are not stretched, when we are not knackered, but when opponents just stroll through huge gaping holes in the line, unopposed. This goes on regularly. It isn't always the right side either, though that is the worst.

Right side has been a problem for a number of years now, back since the Tupou days and whoever was his centre, Sykes I believe. It really needs shoring up, can probably get by with Kear on the wing, but we really need a centre that knows how to defend out there. Move Langley back there and we'll be half way to sorting it out. Unforutunatley we are going to have to look to sign two centres this season, because Purtell, Blythe don't look all that up to it and Lulia is leaving. Some serious gaps to fill in for Franny, but I believe he can do it over time.

Agree with Eddie, Kearney isn't all that and hopefully this youngster can stake his claim over the net few seasons.

Edit, I didn't mean Langley to centre and I meant to add we need a good backrower out there that can marshall those outside him whilst defending. Elliot wasn't up to this, Langley would be.

In terms of criticising players for their defensive efforts, is anyone seriously suggesting that any of those responsible for the defensive debacles against Widnes would be hurt to read those inexcusable failures being criticised?

Really?

The truth is they very well know it was an utter defensive shambles (and sadly by no means for the first time) - people are only pointing out the obvious and given the last few seasons we have endured, and paid, and supported (and continue to) it hardly seems unreasonable.

I said from the off under the new regime that I anticipated a rebuilding process over several years, I did not expect any quick fix. But I fear the way things are going at the moment, the walls are still falling down. They really do need to do something to shore up what remains pretty damn quick.

In a perverse way, our upcoming fixtures are a blessing. We have a breathing space. We are only expected to get flogged, and so the results of these games don't actually matter. And, if there is anybody there who is capable of putting in place a better defensive system, and if there are players there who are prepared to bust a gut to play that system, then they have a couple of stern tests to practice that system.

Its as if they learned nothing from playing them earlier in the year, same situation, well up at HT then throw it away seems to be always the case.

We just cant kill game off, then we defend like a bunch of 10 yr olds and the oppo walk in tries or we gift it to them by doing something daft.

Would Donno not fit as a centre, good hands and decent defender he can also be deceptively quick then move Langley to LF???

Langley back to LF allows him to roam a little, so he could cover the right side, along with Donno, before the .

If we have enough props fit, I would have Langley back at Loose. He's trying hard through the middle, but he's not a natural prop. I don't think he's quick enough, or has any 'guile' for a second row.

I actually meant Langley back to SR, not centre my bad. Wouldn't play Donno in centre.

Good had me confused wouldn't want to see Langley at centre #

We are desperate for a winger with speed, we are really lacking the closest player to catching Paddy when he broke was Scruton, WTF that shouldn't be happening, most of the others just couldn't be bothered chasing back.

Say what you want about Ainscough, he was lighting fast and he had a great heart, with him gone this season the heart we showed last year seems to have gone also, im not saying these are hand in hand but begs a question.

Pretty much agreed, but other way round. Don't think Langers has the mobility to play at Loose any more, where as Donno does. Think he's still capable of punching holes out wide though and fit enough for up and down stuff. Think a centre that can defend is the biggest leak we have to fix though.

I can live with that also