Christ almighty, could you be any more bitter?

What they meant by 'speculative' was having zero relationship to anything real or concrete in the last 10 years. In other words 'bo££ox'.

It's not hyspocrisy, speculation or guessing. The Bulls have fans as demonstrated by the attendance figures over many years. Fax don't.

But your OldCo DIDN'T pay any debts so the 6 points stuck.
You then went to the wall and the last time I checked Wakefield didn't and they still only survived by Crusaders going belly up.
If you want to keep wrongly connecting the 2 go for it but just try to remember all the facts not only the ones you want to remember.

Yep.
I just don't think that it's fine to dump all the debt and carry on as if nothing has happened.
I personally am not happy that you have dodged a £1/2M of tax without attempting to pay any of it and then carry on in SL.
Not to mention all your other suppliers who have got diddly-squat.
If you had entered a CVA at least you would have tried to do the right thing by paying 'something' back.
No doubt you will continue to quote your previous wins and carry on in SL even though you were so quick to dump that history when it suited you.

I personally want the Bulls in SL simply because of the crowds they bring to the game which has got to be good for SL.
However if the rules state you must not go into debt and the penalty is relegation than the Bulls should be relegated .
If the rules state you go into debt and you get a 6 point deduction then this has already happened.
Some clarification would be good on what the rules actually say.
The issue is if the Bulls were relegated and a team from the lower league was promoted. Could that team meet the criteria regardless of the amount of fans they could bring to the game.
Sadly I do not think there is a team that could measure up thus leaving SL with only 13 clubs.
To say that the Bulls are good for the game so don`t relegate us is not a good argument IMO.
Whatever the penalty is for the crime it should be adhered to and to be honest I have not got a clue what that penalty is.

It is the ultimate in hypocracy to use an OldCo you dumped to back up a NewCo's licence application.
The fact you can't or won't see it is your problem.

If the RFL have any stones they should say 'sorry those figures from the OldCO don't count as that company is dead' but they won't.

Exactly, why punish us twice?

You're on here telling all this to us as if we've put ourselves here too, there's nothing we can do about the debt. None of us wanted to go into admin, or be in enough debt to have to form a newco, but its happened.

I can honestly say that if it was another SL club in a similar position, i'd feel the same way, there isn't a realistic option to replace them outside of SL. We've been horribly mismanaged over the last few years, but we've proven we can manage on the crowds we can pull in. Any of the Champ clubs being mentioned aren't likely to pull in the crowds and I think it's fair to say that in this economic climate it would be very hard for one of those to step up. Bet S O'C would be able to tell you just how hard and how much it costs to bring a club into sl.

Then could they not say the debt figures from oldco don't count?

The brand lives on through the newco so if we reapplied along with the Championship clubs and were most viable, then where's the problem.

You can't pick and choose which stuff you wipe from the oldcos history.

But the bulls didn't just go into admin they were in fact binned off and a new company was started.
A totally different kettle of fish IMHO.

Because the origional punishment was for entering admin.
You then binned that old company off which is far worse.

But if you think entering Admin is the same as having to create a new company and dumping all your debt then carry on.

Will Mr Khan still invest the reported 6 Million into Odsal , if you lose your licence ?

No they won't. They won't erase the club's result going back to 1963 either.

I don't have a problem. Hopefully the club will retain its SL license which is in the best interests of the club, the fans, the competition and the sport. I think that's correct.

Ask Mr Khan, maybe?

A very convenient time to say he will do it , no pressure on the RFL then

So not only would the Championship Clubs be going up against the Bulls ' Historical ' plusses , the only way the RFL will get its ' advanced ' monies back and a potential 6 million investement is to have the Bulls win the ' mini licence contest ' , that sounds like a fair one

It is simply a joke

They should announce the decision to leave you in SL now

So Bradford are allowed to be selective about the OldCo then?
Sounds like Hypocracy to me.