And we have to play in a non-rectangular stadium too!. Were absolute certs to be booted out.

Er, where did I say we had 10,000 fans paying "full wack". I disproved your ludicrous assertion that all these fans just "paid peanuts", that's all. Now you have lurched to the other end of the scale of absurdity. Well done.


Are we? Wow. Thank you for pointing out that we have a financial problem. Until your post I had been convinced that the Bulls were in the rudest of rude financial health. Is that not right? Do you think there is any risk we might even go into administration?

So the point being made is that for the Bulls to operate at Odsal with a competitive team [ top 4 and winning silver regularily ] you need a sugar daddy , so in simple terms if none of the bids include that type of investement , the RFL arent going to keep you in SL , so it is irrelivant how many fair weather fans you have , it still wont work

It reads as if he's testing the water, perhaps on behalf of a few of the bigger clubs, to the prospect of a major restructuring of SL.

I dont really believe that Saints, Leeds etc would be too bothered about the demise of Braford, unless they see it as the start of a complete meltdown.

I dont share your pessimism. It would indeed be a very hard road back. But I think a Bulls team in the Championship, playing at Odsal, would still generate crowds of 4-5,000 at least for a year or two. Given a sensible rental agreement and support and time to get a new club established, I dont think the future is quite that bleak.

According to your accounts for end of 2010 you were in a very healthy state. Where has 2 million quid gone in less than 18 months?

Suggest you do like me and send a personal email to Eamonn McManus thanking him for his support.

If you're genuinely interested in our finances, do a bit of reading on these forums, it's all detailed here somewhere.

Nonsense again, we swept much of the board for many of the SL years, and never had a sugar daddy, of any description. Nobody would suggest that the past is bound to be repeated in the future, but it takes a spectacularly myopic person to suggest that what has already been done, in spades, is impossible to do.

You don't half come up with some garbage but I'll say this, you are a trier, albeit a stuck record one.

Nothus most of what is around on here is rumour and hearsay. I have looked at published accounts for most SL clubs and it makes for very ugly reading. The game of rugby league is trading insolvent not just bradford. Clubs showing liabilities of 3,4 and more than 5 million quid in some instances. Dread to think what the 2011 figures will show as most are year end 2010. Giants and broncos in particular when you look at what they are worth taking into account shareholders funds etc are pushing the -£10M figure.

This game is going to implode very shortly unless someone puts the brakes on.

So what changed?

Was your club finances based purely on success on the field generating the required income? , if so you were doomed to fail eventually

I'm sorry. I didn't realise you had been incoming from a distant planet in a state of suspended animation these last few years, and could therefore have no knowledge of what changed. One day maybe someone will have time to go through the history with you.

Agree totally Adey, we cannot see that if the Bulls are relegated out of SL that it will be anything other than, as you say, oblivion!

It takes too long to begin the re birth of anything like the club we have at this moment. Without a substantial sponsor we will not be in the position to re-build anyway.

Agreed and already done, same with all the other teams who have helped our Hardship fund. Let's hope no other club has to go through what we've been through. It's been 6 months of uncertainty and anguish.

That's encouraging for the current clubs who find themselves in that position in the Championships isn't it ?!