FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > Bulls deducted 6 points
89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach7107
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
36131_1571835935.jpg
nosorożce biorą to w dupę:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_36131.jpg



Quote: Bubbashrimp "Obviously Bradford have a problem with some of their "fans", having just read the thread on the ladies train journey and the intimidating behaviour encountered I suppose I shouldn't be to shocked to see this kind of thing tolerated.'"


Yeah cos if you go to Odsal the terraces are just cammed with fellas and no ladies or kids to be seen. What with our terrible reputation of being sexist pigs.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4558
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
19767.jpg
:19767.jpg



Quote: Adam79 "But what about if xyz consortium came in and bought the bulls with the intention of paying the debts off?'"


Well if there is an XYZ consortium they are doing a good job of keeping quiet so far

The Administrator has repeatedly said that ABC are the only show in town. And despite various 'rumours' that there are other people interested, none of those supposedly interested parties appear to have made their interest known

So we are where are, I'm afraid

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



So is there an Operational Rule with an automatic 6 point deduction, or isn't there?

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman6038No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: bren2k "If I'm right, it could suggest that they're close to agreeing a deal with ABC; .'"


Why would they announce it today if that were true. Why not not just wait until the deal is announced?

Unless they want get this penalty, for going into administration, out of the way before announcing a further penalty, for going into liquidation.

af
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman10445No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2022Aug 2013LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
731.jpg
Bradford gave us Hockney, Leeds gave us Moyles.:731.jpg



Two on-field targets now - first priority, make the play-offs. Second, and not to be sniffed at, more wins than losses for the first time since 2008 - this goes unaffected by the points deduction.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



I think it's rather ungenerous to be calling the rfl given all the extra help -and time- the bulls gave been given. Keighley, doncaster, Rochdale and widnes all received the maximum deduction. Wakefield were given their points deduction within a week of administration- you've had yours a month later.

Regardless you should see this as a positive as it appears as if the bid is going to be accepted and you are to stay in SL- otherwise they wouldn't bother with the points deduction. It's harsh on you fans but be grateful you still have a club in the top flight.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1300No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2018Mar 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: jools "I think it's rather ungenerous to be calling the rfl given all the extra help -and time- the bulls gave been given. Keighley, doncaster, Rochdale and widnes all received the maximum deduction. Wakefield were given their points deduction within a week of administration- you've had yours a month later.

Regardless you should see this as a positive as it appears as if the bid is going to be accepted and you are to stay in SL- otherwise they wouldn't bother with the points deduction. It's harsh on you fans but be grateful you still have a club in the top flight.'"


Simply not true. The points deduction is for the 2012 season. The RFL have already stated that they will get the Bulls through the 2012 season so the points deduction should go ahead. If another team failed to get a play off place because the points were not docked there would have been serious problems among SL clubs. It has no bearing on the RFL response to the 'bid'.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So is there an Operational Rule with an automatic 6 point deduction, or isn't there?'"



So, there isn't??

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member4927
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3634.jpg
[IMG]//i50.tinypic.com/a59ff5.gif[/IMG]:3634.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So is there an Operational Rule with an automatic 6 point deduction, or isn't there?'"


here try this from another thread

The points were deducted under RFL Operational Rule 4, details of which are on Page 119 of the 2012 RFL Official Guide, which can also be viewed by visiting www.therfl.co...erational_rules
Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "So is there an Operational Rule with an automatic 6 point deduction, or isn't there?'"


here try this from another thread

The points were deducted under RFL Operational Rule 4, details of which are on Page 119 of the 2012 RFL Official Guide, which can also be viewed by visiting www.therfl.co...erational_rules


RankPostsTeam
International Chairman28357
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024Oct 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
973_1515165968.gif
Last edited by Ferocious Aardvark on stardate Jun 26, 3013 11:27 am, edited 48,562,867,458,300,023 times in total:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_973.gif



Link's broke icon_sad.gif

p 119 doesn't mention "points"

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach905No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200916 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2021Jan 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
42633_1481549200.jpg
" I CAN ACCEPT FAILURE, BUT I WON'T ACCEPT NOT TRYING " - Michael Jordan:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_42633.jpg



Quote: debaser "So 4 for Wakefield and Crusaders and 6 for us? Consistency. NOT.'"

Yes, but we didn't get any help from the RFL regarding extensions or wage paying, or any help from clubs i.e the money from ticket sales where as Bradford have, and we also sold 3 of our players (Obst, Millard and Ferguson) in the administration, where as Bradford havn't and not used the money they could have got from the player sales, to pay of any debt.

However put that aside, I hope that you get your future sorted and get back to been a viable rugby league club (like 2005!)

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9986No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2019Aug 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
13747_1541715311.jpg
[b:3g5rrn89](and I feel fine)[/b:3g5rrn89]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_13747.jpg



So some administrations are more administration than others? So Wakey and Crusaders were less in administration than we are?

RankPostsTeam
International Star244No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 201213 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Quote: debaser "So some administrations are more administration than others? So Wakey and Crusaders were less in administration than we are?'"

Wakey and Crusaders managed to pay some of their creditors,the Bulls haven't,hence a 6 point deduction.
BULLS STATEMENT REGARDING POINTS DEDUCTION

Bradford Bulls have today reacted to the six points deduction imposed by the RFL for entering Administration.
Bulls Interim CEO Gary Tasker said:

“We expected a deduction of points by the RFL and we of course accept that penalty. We are not yet in a position to be able to offer any recompense to our Creditors and as such a six point deduction was what we expected.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10464
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2023Dec 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
60098_1402496159.jpg
the future's bright the future's [color=#800000:1p3f9jf7]claret [/color:1p3f9jf7] and [color=#FFFF40:1p3f9jf7]gold [/color:1p3f9jf7]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_60098.jpg



You can't jump up and down and simply point at wakey and crusaders and ignore Doncaster, Keighley, rochdale and widnes. (didn't widnes get 9 points which was equivalent to three wins!)
Wakey were in debt to £300,000- bulls have got themselves into a much bigger financial hole. It's not the players or the fans fault-those at fault have cleared off after taking your cash! The rfl have done much more for bulls than they did for any other club facing this- Clearly the consortium is not willing to pay off debts and players are not being sold to do so thetefore the maximum penalty has been given-you can't have it all ways.

RankPostsTeam
International Star793No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Dec 2016Dec 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



doesn't the tax man have a say in things? seeing as i pay my tax i would expect them to accept all they are owed from the bulls ! it isn't my fault that they didn't pay the tax..selling players would get some money in to repay creditors..bulls should be forced to do this.

89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
89 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.21484375:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
20m
Accounts
Tony Fax
132
22m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
24m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
25m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
27m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
50m
2025 KIT Thread
dddooommm
3
52m
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
26s
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
1m
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Salford
TF and the w
13
1m
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
2m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
2m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
539
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2665
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 2,161 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
14m
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
20m
Accounts
Tony Fax
132
22m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
24m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
25m
Film game
Boss Hog
5644
27m
2024
imwakefieldt
6
50m
2025 KIT Thread
dddooommm
3
52m
Salford
TF and the w
13
Recent
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
199
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
26s
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FIL
8
1m
Pre Season - 2025
RockNRolla
184
1m
Salford
TF and the w
13
1m
New Players
Halfdan of t
138
1m
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
2m
Rumours thread
Scarlet Pimp
2515
2m
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
2m
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
3m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
imwakefieldt
6
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Kirmudgeonly
8
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Butcher
41
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Trin e ti
21
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
539
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1279
England's Women Demolish The W..
1107
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1349
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1136
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1939
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2395
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2201
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2665
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2097
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!