Get your facts right mick. I've never said Herberts the greatest organiser in the world. What I've said he's the best out of jeffries,gale,sammut and briggs. Entirely different statement which I stand by. In terms of organising the side either jeffries or gale is a downgrade IMO, maybe not a massive one but a downgrade never the less.

Whether improving the quality and pace at standoff is enough to offset that remains to be seen, although I'd be a lot happier if we could either get witt/hanbury on board to take scrum half role OR a ball playing loose in the style of sinfield. We have no on field general at the moment.

IF we could get sammut at standoff, witt/hanbury at scrum half with gale and jeffries as backup then our halves would look a lot stronger. Briggs can go on loan for a year to see whether its worth taking up the option on his 3rd year. We only have sammut and jeffries for a year at moment so we need to keep developing briggs in the background.

Im just winding you up Mat. He's no better organiser than BJ, Gale or Sammut though. He's poor. Fair enough he's got a good number of assists but so has Willie Manu. Fact is this Mat, and you cant agrue with it, The Bradford Bulls have looked poorly organised this year on the attackand Marc Herbert as the half back has an awful lot to answer for it.

agree to differ mick? I think herberts slightly better than sammut,bj or gale. you think there all as bad as each other. We seem to both agree that we need to improve in this area though wouldnt you say?.

Thing thats stood out for me this year has been too much one man rugby. we need someone on field directing things to improve that.

Fair enough, based on what though. The fact that he's got 18 assists and the others havent?

No I dont, I think Herbert is the worst of the lot.

Yes I do agree with you on your final points, and I think Gale and Sammut will be an improvement.

Whatever mick neither gale or sammut are an improvement in organising sense. I'll bookmark this post and remind you next year when your complaining about the lack of direction.

Please do.

If Herbert is a better organiser than our other halves why does it look like Potter is moving him on. All of the Internet coaches must no more than him.

so he can bring in quota signings that will 'whet the appetite'. obvious really

Its RLFANS, everybody on this site think they know better thank the professionals

maybe herbert wanted too much money, who knows. there doesnt seem to much balance in the group of half backs we have at the minute.

worrying for me is that the 3 hbs we have signed have all come from the 3 bottom teams, and none of them really stood out too much, with 2 of them not even automatic starters. Now i rate potter, but that is not too glowing an example of the quality of player we have brought in

How much has everyone seen of Gale and Sammut? There seem to be a lot of posts saying that Herbert is better or worse than the 2 new guys. I watch as much Superleague as is possible but I really haven't seen anywhere near enough of Gale or Sammut on a regular basis to form such judgements at this stage.

I think the criticism of Herbert is unfair and the blame for his under achievements this year should rest firmly at the feet of the people who signed him. I think its pretty clear that he was signed as an organisational scrum half. Having watched Herbert all season with the rest of you guys I think Herbert is a stand off who has been asked to carry out a role which he isn't up to. You can't doubt the effort he's put in but he's been up against it from the start. He would have thrived at the side of a class scrum half. Herbert is certainly not a bad player but has been a bad signing. Who's faults that?

Can't help but wonder if the decision to move Herbert on, was taken before his perceived upturn in form?

More than likley, but form is tempory and the thing that lasts forever herbert sadly lacks.

Who is this Conner fella?????