I still can't get your drift
could you possibly supply a link to substantiate your facts please?
or explain it again for me in plain

I could.

Last time I checked we don't get a trophy for that.

Can you list me (and Mr Hood's solicitors) some of these lies please and also where he is on record as believing the fans to be gullible?

Thanks.

Hmm...looks to me like there might be a libelous statement there? Some very unequivocal allegations being made.

Must admit, I left a couple of seconds early after Wires final try. I thought our supporters were great today (except the cheering of Sykes when injured...not his biggest fan by any means but support yer own). You love the club but it really got tested today. Keep the faith people, we will come good.........maybe!

Adey, haven't we had this discussion before, as we know, no-one is going to pursue anyone for libel on here, because a) To call anything on here libel is a stretch b) proving authorship would be nigh on impossible c) it would cost more than could possibly be gained and d) none of us are rich enough, otherwise I hope we'd be buying in to the Bulls and helping out

Perhaps the title of the thread is also a little overstated - I'm fairly certain all 14000 fans didn't leave early, I didn't for one, and thoroughly enjoyed Elliot's try and the ironic cheers and applause of the Bulls and Wire fans.

Am I annoyed, yes and no, expected it to be honest. We were getting bullied by their forwards ( made worse when Elima got injured) and they have a much better back line with power and pace (we don't - made worse when Ainscough got injured and Walker is a second row not a centre now). They even have two halves who know how to play, can organise and direct their troops, we don't. The ricochets/charge down scores (3 or 4?) were dumb kick plays but were probably part of the game plan given the wind. What annoys me more is the complete lack of options on the last tackle, slow execution of pass plays and our inability to run support (barring Royston who tried hard). We need to invest in the halves if Potter doesn't think Briggs is up to it, Herbert is plainly not good enough and we can't rely solely on kearney to play stand off and fullback simultaneously. We also need more firepower in the forwards - a decent impact prop, Koppy is working hard but not there, and Hargreaves looked intimidated going in to collision all afternoon. Be good to see Scruton and Langley back.

Rugby League is part of the sporting entertainment business and if your no longer entertained then your quite within your Rights to get up and leave. Pay your money and take a chance !

I still have a video of Saints 12 Wigan 65 from 1997, in which Saints fans are clearly shown streaming out of Knowsley Road in their hundreds, if not thousands, by half-time.

Everyone has their dark times. Please don't assume that your club and fans are somehow superior to this, and that you can therefore lecture. You can't.

I almost never post on other clubs' message boards, but I think that when it comes to trolling a troll I can happily make an exception to that personal rule.

People threaten all sorts of stuff.

Quote: anarkik "People threaten all sorts of stuff.'" footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/ ... opic=15314 It does happen, ex Sheff Wed chairman Dave Allen sued several members of owlstalk.co.uk in 2007, due to libel comments on owlstalk.

Quote: anarkik "People threaten all sorts of stuff.'" footballgroundguide.ipbhost.com/ ... opic=15314 It does happen, ex Sheff Wed chairman Dave Allen sued several members of owlstalk.co.uk in 2007, due to libel comments on owlstalk.

OK, I apologise for the comments about Mr Hood that I have subsequently removed. It was wrong of me to make statements that could be damaging and without any substance. I was out of order and a little upset at the way things turned out at the game. There is nothing to suggest that Mr Hood is anything but a fine man, who is 100% honest.

Where I will not change my views though are the ones I stated suggesting were are being taken for mugs. We are.

I didnt leave early but dont have any problem with those that did. Leaving early seems to me to be the most civilised way of registering a protest at a team's performance. Far better than booing. If you've paid your money why should you feel obliged to stay to the bitter end out of some sense of loyalty or need to prove your credentials as a fan?

The debate reminds me of the time we put 80+ points past Wire at Widerspool at the end of the 2001 (?) season. Nearly all of the Wire fans stayed to the end partly to "send off" players that were retiring. Part of me greatly admired them for doing that, but I couldnt help thinking they'd have done their club a bigger favour if the players had had to leave the pitch on a ground deserted of home fans. The Wolves players seemed to be taking the out of their fans that day (I think it turned out later that some of them were literally ed) and just didnt deserve any appreciation from the fans. Yesterday's performance certainly wasnt in that category, but it was bad enough for fans to feel thay could leave early without being criticised.

However cheering when a player is taken off injured is beyond the pale.

The thing is, there's a lot of talk of people leaving at half time cos someone saw people walking up the steps away from the stands 5 minutes before half time.

Tbh, I've seen that when we've been winning. It's because people want to get to the toilets, bars, food etc before the half time rush starts. It doesn't mean that people are leaving the ground.

I can understand how people might think that given the score line yesterday. But really, I think it's a case of 2+2= yellow.

The reason I say that is that the area I was in, on the pop side, was virtually as full at kick off as it was at full time.