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So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.

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Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"


If you drop something out of the window of a moving car, the object will continue to move forwards in relation to the point as which it was released, as it was originally moving at the same speed (with its own momentum) of the car.
If you hit the brakes hard and are not wearing a seatbelt, you'll go through the windscreen because everything in the car has the same momentum.

Momentum = Mass x Velocity (speed in a given direction)

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he's my fav member of the sky sports comm team.

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Quote: Fantastic Mr Catpiss "he's my fav member of the sky sports comm team.'"


You've still got your Cullen ears on. Cullen very articulately and passionately says nothing at all. Clarke has exactly the same trick, except Clarke has learned to make the ends of his sentences have some connection to their beginning.

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Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"


Not this one again.....

I was taught the principles of this when I was 12, were you asleep, or didn't you bother with school?

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Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"


Presumably & hopefully you do not teach physics?

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Quote: tigertot "Presumably & hopefully you do not teach physics?'"



He does - it's just that it's feminist physics.

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Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? '"

yes, you've got it.

Quote: debaser " So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player? '"

Indeed it will, though it will start to slow down due to air resistance and will start to accelerate towards the ground due to gravity. But those are external forces operating on the ball, in a vacuum and with no gravity the momentum of the ball would keep it going straight on at the same speed forward relative to the ground as it was when the player let go.

Quote: debaser "I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. '"

What it is, is pretty basic 1st week physics.

Quote: debaser "The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"

Everything has momentum. The important thing in this context is the change of momentum relative to the ground. The player has changed the momentum of the ball by accelerating it forward (relative to the ground) so yes, it has been given some additional momentum by the player.

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Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"

Watch this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

Then let us know if you understand it or not.

(and yes it's a Rah Rah video, but the same principles apply unless RL has mastered the ability to defy the laws of physics).
Quote: debaser "So the ball has forward momentum when it is being carried? So it a player drops the ball straight down when running then the ball will continue moving forwards at the same pace as the player?
I'm sorry, but I think that's rubbish. The ball has no momentum of its own until it is given some.'"

Watch this:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMlDy2jP9s

Then let us know if you understand it or not.

(and yes it's a Rah Rah video, but the same principles apply unless RL has mastered the ability to defy the laws of physics).


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And yes, despite the video evidence, they still have some as thick as some of ours, who still, unbelievably, don't get it icon_smile.gif

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I thought the purpose of that video was top remind yawnionites what passing actually is.

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Quote: Smooth Stu "If you drop something out of the window of a moving car, the object will continue to move forwards in relation to the point as which it was released, as it was originally moving at the same speed (with its own momentum) of the car.
If you hit the brakes hard and are not wearing a seatbelt, you'll go through the windscreen because everything in the car has the same momentum.

Momentum

Its all about linear momentum from classical mechanics you are spot on.

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Quote: tigertot "I thought the purpose of that video was top remind yawnionites what passing actually is.'"



Mind you, looking at the passer's hands, there's a few on that vid that I'd give as "forward" mesen
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I'm sorry, I lost interest when you started talking about physics. That's why I got an E...

I know I'm right though, that's all that matters....

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Does my desk have momentum?

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