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Quote: af "Ha, an honourable draw as well. Worrlord doesn't appear to have kicked on like I'd hoped. Was hoping he'd end up a bit of a Paul Medley. Who does he actually resemble?'"


Donkey Kong, he has the movements off to a T....

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Quote: af "Ha, an honourable draw as well. Worrlord doesn't appear to have kicked on like I'd hoped. Was hoping he'd end up a bit of a Paul Medley. Who does he actually resemble?'"


He reminds me a bit of Karl Pryce but with less ability. KP always had the same size and physical attributes, but never seemed like he could be bothered. The difference being that when Pryce WAS bothered, he would do well. Worrincy I don't think is an effort issue.

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Quote: DILLIGAF " Worrincy I don't think is an effort issue.'"

I think it is part of it to be honest. He is incredibly lazy, I watched him a lot in the 2nd half yesterday and he visibly moved away from the ball. When we struggled to get out our own half he should be there to use his size. After making such errors he should be wanting to get his hands on the ball to make amends. Like I posted last night, I was more disappointed with his response to the mistakes rather than the mistakes themselves. If he is playing next week then Hull will run at him all night.

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Quote: Bully_Boxer "I think it is part of it to be honest. He is incredibly lazy, I watched him a lot in the 2nd half yesterday and he visibly moved away from the ball. When we struggled to get out our own half he should be there to use his size. After making such errors he should be wanting to get his hands on the ball to make amends. Like I posted last night, I was more disappointed with his response to the mistakes rather than the mistakes themselves. If he is playing next week then Hull will run at him all night.'"


Therein lies an enduring problem for the team, far more serious than his own woefull game against Wire.
With the benefit of TV exposure his poor positioning and tackling technique (if in fact there is a technique at all) will be analysed by all SL coaches and will become a soft target option in all future games.
It's inconceivable that he should be played again untill he has significantly improved his defence.

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Is this the same Worrincy that some posters were waxing so lyrically about last season ? The WORRLORD I seem to remember icon_surprised.gifops:

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Quote: Buck Tarbrush "Is this the same Worrincy that some posters were waxing so lyrically about last season ? The WORRLORD I seem to remember That was because of his tries against Leeds and Saints. Watch them, his lines are awesome there. We always kne his defence was gash, but he sort of made up for it with his lines. Now he's not offering anything going forward either.

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Last week he played ok but still missed tackles. This week he's missed more, this isn't super league standard. Whitehead and Donaldson are playing a mans game and they've not matured yet they are going to get better. Not sure this guy will, give his place to someone else....

who can kick?

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who can kick?'"

Sykes, Orford, Donaldson are good kickers. I'd say Sykes was the best out of those 3 though.

IIRC Wagga used to kick at Castleford and Menzies has kicked 1 goal in his career icon_lol.gif .

If Hyde or Addy break into the squad we'll be set.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "
IIRC Wagga used to kick at Castleford'"


You do remember correctly.

He kicked 59 goals for Cas in the 2004 season. Took over from Wayne Bartrim who was their previous regular kicker.


Edit: His league goal kicking was 56 from 76. Which is a 74% success rate.

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Quote: DILLIGAF "You do remember correctly.

He kicked 59 goals for Cas in the 2004 season. Took over from Wayne Bartrim who was their previous regular kicker.

No idea how many he missed though.'"

Doubt he'd stick his hand up when he only kicked for half a season 6 years ago. Plus he's only playing about 30 a match.

I would hand it to Sykes for the rest of the season tbh, let him get used to it again, tell him to get a bit of practice in and we'll be ok.

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Quote: Ewwenorfolk "Doubt he'd stick his hand up when he only kicked for half a season 6 years ago. Plus he's only playing about 30 a match.

I would hand it to Sykes for the rest of the season tbh, let him get used to it again, tell him to get a bit of practice in and we'll be ok.'"


He kicked for the full season, but it was the year Cas got relegated, so he didn't kick many because of that. Bartrim was the regular kicker the year before, but left after 2003.

He had a 74% ratio, compared to Orford's 73% this year. But both of those are rounded to the point where it's almost exactly the same figure.
Sykes has 0% this year, but that's because he's got 0 from 3.

To be honest, for that kicking ratio, it's not worth having someone who's out of practice for 6 years, as you mentioned.

Personally, I've always found Sykes' kicking to be inconsistent. He can very good sometimes and very poor at others. I'd stick with Ox.


(I appreciate this belongs on the other thread, but there's been a kind of crossover! I'll move to the other thread for goal kicking discussion)

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Quote: DILLIGAF "He kicked for the full season, but it was the year Cas got relegated, so he didn't kick many because of that. Bartrim was the regular kicker the year before, but left after 2003.

He had a 74% ratio, compared to Orford's 73% this year. But both of those are rounded to the point where it's almost exactly the same figure.
Sykes has 0% this year, but that's because he's got 0 from 3.

To be honest, for that kicking ratio, it's not worth having someone who's out of practice for 6 years, as you mentioned.

Personally, I've always found Sykes' kicking to be inconsistent. He can very good sometimes and very poor at others. I'd stick with Ox.


(I appreciate this belongs on the other thread, but there's been a kind of crossover!)'"

They all seem to be similar really: Good, but no Deacon, but then who is?

I don't think it's a huge worry tbh, a few easy ones have been missed but I think the majority of the ones missed have been closer to the touchline than the sticks.

Where did you get the stats? What was Sykes kicking ratio for any season at Quins?

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Well, I came here to take out my frustrations on Worrincy after his 'performance' last evening, but its all been said by others.

It's a shame really, because he seems like he has all the attributes - a big powerful lad, who has a great turn of pace. You could see him as a Sonny Nickle type - but whereas Nickle always seemed to have a big of devil about him, Worrincy is a pussycat.

It's hard to say that someone who, presumably, none of actually knows 'can't be bothered' or is 'lazy, but it sure looks that way to those of us observing. Like others have said, he's going to get targetted by other coaches if he plays in future weeks - and you'd expect that to be the case.

Frankly, he could with a spell on loan at Dewsbury or Halifax to rebuild his career. But I fear that Macca has decided that he's worth persisting with and will play him anyway.

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