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| something else quite important from that articleAt Bradford, and I'm sure at all other clubs, we are required to provide the governing body, the Rugby Football League, a copy of the individuals' visa and his passport and a whole load of other documentation - and presumably that would have happened in this case as well.'"
somebody at the RFL has a lot to answer for.
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| Quote: phillgee "something else quite important from that article
Or somebody at the Club
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| Quote: phillgee "something else quite important from that article
It's either the RFL that allowed the players to be registered without proper paperwork, the club made inaccurate applications (which should really have been spotted by UKBA) or UKBA for issuing the paperwork incoorectly and then not spotting the mistake afterwards.
Something stinks here and I guess the RFl and UKBA will now be running round trying to work out how they can deflect the guilt away from themselves.
I guess the club have done nothing wrong as they would be prosecuted and I can't see any mention of a prosecution in the news reports.
None of this is the Celtic fans doing and they are ultimately the ones that end up paying.
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| We obviously don't and probably won't get the full picture here. Who is it that fills in these visa applications?
I think the club should have spotted the mistake and the RFL most definitely should have spotted it.
Having never seen what the visa document looks like, I assume that it must be a massively complicated thing for the club and the RFL never to have noticed.
Would the player know anything about this themselves?
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| rlwere not gonna be asking for the points backrl
Which is good casue we would of been on a hiding to nothing
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| Quote: MQBlank "rlwere not gonna be asking for the points backrl
Which is good casue we would of been on a hiding to nothing'"
af linked this at the bottom of page 3
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| Quote: phillgee "af linked this at the bottom of page 3
you dont read one page and look what happens !!!
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| Not sure anyone can blame the RFL over the Visas issue. They checked all visas in Dec & Jan and all were found to be valid AT THAT TIME.
As I understand it, their current visas were perfectly valid, but were based upon the fact that they had had valid visas in the past. It now appears that they did not for previous seasons (ie when Cru were in the NLs) as they had working holiday visas which the Borders Agency have since deemed as not good enough for semi-professional sporting purposes. Therefore, their current visas have been cancelled with immediate effect. It is possible to appeal this decision, but only from outside the country!
What is less clear is the involvement of the Club in helping these players obtain visas. Did they deliberately mislead the Borders Agency or were they working on the erroneous assumption that they could play with working holiday visas?
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| There have been a lot of cases in the lower divisions where players had been playing on working holiday visas.
The "work" you undertake is supposed to be incidental to your time in the UK, and not the reason you are here - at most NL clubs this wasn't much of a problem because they are part time and a couple of training sessions a week and a match during the season could easily fall within the criteria.
A lot of NL clubs had problems getting Aussies in at the start of this season due to some tightening up of the rules, it wouldn't surprise me if some follow up from that has led to what has happened to the Celtic players.
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| It's good to see the UK Borders Agency doing everything they can to keep these people out of the country. They were a threat to society and the british way of life. I mean calling flip flops thongs today mass murder tomorrow!
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| Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "It's good to see the UK Borders Agency doing everything they can to keep these people out of the country. They were a threat to society and the british way of life. I mean calling flip flops thongs today mass murder tomorrow!'"
To be fair serves us right for imposing our convicts on the aborigines hundreds of years ago. Karma and all that
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