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| Quote: redeverready "TBH i think that my position on this has been very clear. Please don't get me wrong i have never wanted him sacking for the sake it. My argument has always been that he isn't up to the job and as more and more time passes it's becoming more and more clear that he isn't. Nothing more would have pleased me than being wrong and we would be on the up but in truth we aren't. So I will say again it's time for Mr McNamara to be removed from his role.'"
Whether or not Mac is a dead man walking, a considered question I have been trying to figure out the answer to is whether I think any other coach could get a better season out of the present line-up of alarmingly inconsistent and frustrating group of players. I watch what they do, and how they do it, and despite the names on the teamsheet, I reckon not, or at least, they would have the devil's own job.
My own tupppenorth is that by whatever means we seem to have ended up with a squad which you would think was good enough to be top six, if nowhere near top two, but it has emphatically proved that it is a bottom four team.
And we are. Let's make no bones about it now, the Bulls squad have put themselves where they deserve to be, bottom four team.
I am not saying McNamara is blameless in that, and won't be at all surprised if a coach in his situation went, and indeed after the resukts we've had he would already have been out of many places, but the players have to take this one on the chin, as the majority of the responsibilit, at least, certainly lies with them.
I don't see 17 untamed geniuses who just need a shrewd point in the right direction.
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| Obviously many of the players have themselves to blame. Unfortunately many of the worst culprits were recruited by the head coach and haven't developed under his teachings.
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| Quote: debaser "The evidence would suggest that he is not doing a good job but he surely has not coached the players to drop a ball from the kick off, to pass forwards, to drop it, to miss tackles. Has he? Its the players who seem to be effing things up, is that down to Mac?'"
Totally agree macca doesn`t teach them to knock on and play like compete tools. I went today and we were ok in the 1st half and then went to pieces in the 2nd half, mind you the big change in the game was when deacs head was almost taken off, which should has been a least a yellow card so we ended up losing him for the first half suppose did not help matters.
Some very poor decisions came from the ref ian smith but our downfall was silly errors, missed tackles and rovers made us pay for those.
Play offs very unlikely now, we might has well start bringing the youngsters in for the rest of the season and least some of them will play with a bit more pride.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Whether or not Mac is a dead man walking, a considered question I have been trying to figure out the answer to is whether I think any other coach could get a better season out of the present line-up of alarmingly inconsistent and frustrating group of players. I watch what they do, and how they do it, and despite the names on the teamsheet, I reckon not, or at least, they would have the devil's own job.
My own tupppenorth is that by whatever means we seem to have ended up with a squad which you would think was good enough to be top six, if nowhere near top two, but it has emphatically proved that it is a bottom four team.
And we are. Let's make no bones about it now, the Bulls squad have put themselves where they deserve to be, bottom four team.
I am not saying McNamara is blameless in that, and won't be at all surprised if a coach in his situation went, and indeed after the resukts we've had he would already have been out of many places, but the players have to take this one on the chin, as the majority of the responsibilit, at least, certainly lies with them.
I don't see 17 untamed geniuses who just need a shrewd point in the right direction.'" But like in all other teams sports isn't the had coach/manger ultimately responsible for results.
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| I think it was Cibaman??? argued a good few weeks ago - after one of the earlier hang-em-high threads - that by July it should be clear how things have turned out, and that would be the time to decide on any changes on the coaching front.
Well, its July.
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21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
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| Quote: Adeybull "I think it was Cibaman??? argued a good few weeks ago - after one of the earlier hang-em-high threads - that by July it should be clear how things have turned out, and that would be the time to decide on any changes on the coaching front.
Well, its July.'" It should have never been left this late.
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| I agree, it's time for Mac to go now, as long as a good replacement can be found and were not stuck with a clown from his backroom staff for the rest of the year. That way, the new coach would have a say on recruitment for next year, and he may be able to start bringing a bit of belief back into the team now, and get to know the place, and the players.
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| The second most successful coach of the SL era has agreed to take over a side flirting with relegation to the third tier next season.
Now I'm not saying we should have gone for Millward, but given that, do people seriously believe no-one with any calibre would be interested in the Bradford job were it to become available?
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| Yes but at this point the job does not appear to be available. In fact far from it the present coach seems firmly rooted in place.....
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| Another season(2010) and if we don`t improve macca will be gone or he will come to his senses and will resign.
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| Quote: clared "Another season(2010) and if we don`t improve macca will be gone or he will come to his senses and will resign.'"
Another season like this?!
How low are you wanting attendances to drop?
P.s. Are we now at a all time low for average super league attendance at home?
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| Quote: anarkik "Arguments forThe third argument is that McN is doing something (usually poorly specified) to 're-build' the club and that this will yield some future benefits. However given his lack of success with the team he has currently built this also seems unlikely.
A fourth argument concerns finances, which are all a little opaque, however it is apparent that declining attendances and the possibility of reduced revenue from sponsors because of a lack of success might contribute as much to a worsening of our financial position as any costs involved in removing McNamara.
I would have loved him to be successful, particularly as a young british coach, but that hasn't happened and the time has come.'"
I have not yet called for Macca to go. But I would not be surprised or too disappointed if he was gone before the next game. And I say the following in full knowledge of the quite justified mitigating circumstances behind the scenes and the poisoned chalice that he was handed;
I agree with a lot of the above quote, but the highlighted bit is what's really worried me for a few weeks. We can only take other peoples views on how good and important a job Macca is doing in the "rebuilding/attracting talent/being our USP etc" Problem is, we as paying speccies only get to judge his competence for ourselves on match days, and he is clearly lacking in this department IMHO. Weather its a disorganised sliding defence, dodgy use of interchanges, or seemingly producing a team not being switched on for certain games and being so for others, which is a state of mind and culture within the team that should be created by the coaching team and is clearly missing.
So, we see his obvious weaknesses on match day, and that is all we can go on, so calls for his head are easy to understand. And my main worry is that who is to say that he will show better judgement with the rebuilding project than his management of 1st team results? Do we just trust to faith? What if he does as bad a job in that process as he is doing in overseeing results this season?
I dont know the answers, none of us do. But I will guess that Macca is doing as good a job as he can, that Hood will stand by him, he will be our coach for next season, and that we will just have to trust that Macca and Hood can see the future better than a lot of us......
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| If the reasons for him to stay are the excellent work going on behind the scenes then perhaps he should concentrate full time on that and bring someone else in to manage the First Team. There is absolutely no shame in holding up your hands and admitting defeat, whilst working yourself into a position for which your talents are better suited. If he is making a difference in respect of the youth structure etc I'm sure no one would be against him continuing with the club in that role.
It's beginning to get to the stage where there seems to be better things to do on a Sunday afternoon. That would have been unimaginable three years ago.
When it comes to renewing season tickets just how many people really will fork out to watch the same old trash week in, week out?
Surely to goodness he's been given long enough?
[i(You know that next week we will beat Wigan and all bets will be off again!)[/i
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| Quote: dixie "Another season like this?!
How low are you wanting attendances to drop?
P.s. Are we now at a all time low for average super league attendance at home?'"
So sacking macca is the answer ?
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| Quote: Adeybull "
Well, its July.'"
So what do you think mate?
Macca in or Macca out?
Give us a nice simple one. lol
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