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| I'll give McNamara his due, he certainly knows how to try and deflect the blame elsewhere!
Just about all the players in the squad have proved to have a reasonable pedigree under other coaches or at other clubs. It's the coaching they are currently receiving, nothing else.
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21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
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| Quote: Cibaman "That may be the case but it wasnt just the Bulls that didnt believe they were good enough. Every other SL club will have watched those 4 players, assessed them and decided not to take them on.'" They quit the game altogether I know that one of those got a very good offer at Wakefield but decided against it, he;d just had enough of the game after having his spirit broken.
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7741_1339451243.jpg When you're a Bradford fan there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.
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| I'm still concerned about the whole "we're not playing as we're coached" I'm sure that's not the first time that's been said either.
So that leaves us a few explainations.
1. McNamara has a discipline problem. He can't enforce his ideas and tactics on the squad and it's left the squad unsure as to what they're supposed to do in given situations
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2. The team want rid of McNamara and are purposely playing poorly.
Personally I hope it's 1 and if McNamara had a more seasoned hand guiding him a la Tony Smith & Jimmy Lowes at Wire, that the team would be able to turn it around. I'd hate option 2 to be correct. Because if it is then every single player that's turned out this year has spat in the face of the Bradford fans and don't deserve to play the game let alone wear Bradford colours
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21910.gif [u:b26ka63j][size=150:b26ka63j][color=black:b26ka63j][b:b26ka63j]I can accept failure, but I can't accept not trying.
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| Quote: Roofaldo "I'm still concerned about the whole "we're not playing as we're coached" I'm sure that's not the first time that's been said either.
So that leaves us a few explainations.
1. McNamara has a discipline problem. He can't enforce his ideas and tactics on the squad and it's left the squad unsure as to what they're supposed to do in given situations
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2. The team want rid of McNamara and are purposely playing poorly.
Personally I hope it's 1 and if McNamara had a more seasoned hand guiding him a la Tony Smith & Jimmy Lowes at Wire, that the team would be able to turn it around. I'd hate option 2 to be correct. Because if it is then every single player that's turned out this year has spat in the face of the Bradford fans and don't deserve to play the game let alone wear Bradford colours'" Either way it can't be let to continue.
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7741_1339451243.jpg When you're a Bradford fan there's always a light at the end of the tunnel.
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| Quote: redeverready "Either way it can't be let to continue.'"
No it can't. The club MUST do something now before we slip any further. But without knowing exactly what the root cause of all this is there's no way of saying what the right solution (if there is one) would be
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| Quote: Roofaldo "No it can't. The club MUST do something now before we slip any further. But without knowing exactly what the root cause of all this is there's no way of saying what the right solution (if there is one) would be'"
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So bloody frustrating, isn't it?
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| There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.
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25852_1297892995.jpg You've stolen my washing
From out my back garden
You've tarmacked my driveway
Even though I said no
You've nicked my lead flashing
And weighed it in at the scrappy
Oh St Helen's tatters
Come rob me again:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25852.jpg |
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| Quote: Cibaman "There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.'"
As i stated earlier, players like the aforementioned were consistent performers at previous clubs. It doesn't take a genius.
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "As i stated earlier, players like the aforementioned were consistent performers at previous clubs. It doesn't take a genius.'"
That's not what the Wakey fans told us about those we signed from them...
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| Quote: Cibaman "There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.'"
That probably is a part of the problem.
The confidence factor and losing becoming "habit" must also be starting to take effect.
These are obvious things looking from the outside in though aren't they?
It is the deeper rooted, covered problems I (and the rest of you) want to know about.
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| Quote: kiJ "'paper thin squad lacking in confidence,quality' is because of the salary cap!
Granted there are winners and losers in all sports, but I would much rather see Bradford get beaten playing well and with quality players on the pitch rather then getting battered 22 – 58. 30-40k a year will not attract quality players to the sport!'"
So your salary capped team is getting walloped by other salary capped teams because of the salary cap?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "So your salary capped team is getting walloped by other salary capped teams because of the salary cap?
I've already pointed out early the teeny weeny logic errors in what he said.
And we have only been actually walloped twice so far - although I suspect few doubt it will be three times after Friday.
But if we are talking use of devices to...stretch the cap - like payment for image rights, use of offshoring, employee benefit trusts, the Singapore Sling - as well as the ability of some clubs players to secure massive external image rights payments - it would be interesting to see the comparison then?
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| Quote: Adeybull "But if we are talking use of devices to...stretch the cap - like payment for image rights, use of offshoring, employee benefit trusts, the Singapore Sling - as well as the ability of some clubs players to secure massive external image rights payments - it would be interesting to see the comparison then?'"
Meh - speculation as to which clubs use these and to what extent.
Anyway, if all of those things were permitted under the cap, then more fool those who didn't bother IMO.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Meh - speculation as to which clubs use these and to what extent.
Anyway, if all of those things were permitted under the cap, then more fool those who didn't bother IMO.'"
And if all or some were not, then more fool those now having their collars felt by HMRC . . .
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| Anyway, back to the original topic . . .
Your team at the moment isn't exactly brimming with youngsters, throwing a couple in (a la Ainscough and Tomkins at wigan when the chips were down) isn't going to do them any harm.
It's a cop out as far as I'm concerned and rather than interpreting the "we're not playing as we're coached" line as a prompt to shift blame from the coach to the players, I would ask myself why the coach isn't able to get the players to listen to and act upon his instructions (which after all is his job).
I really like Steve Mac, but I think he's a little out of his depth. Someone made a very interesting point on here recently when they said it would be intriguing to hear an (honest) assessment from the likes of Menzies and Morrisson.
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