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Quote: childofthenorthern "It's pretty well structured without being over complicated. I'd look to add another category of players from other sports and rate them similar to own academy products as you can then take a chance trying to attract top class athletes, who may or may not adapt to RL, without too high a risk.'"

Its a great benefit for it that you can look at the type of players you want clubs to have, and reward them for doing so. As you say, we can look at bringing in players from union, but also we can encourage clubs to give more opportunity to players from developing nations as well.

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The problem I see with this system is that surely players (and/or their clubs) would be reluctant to play for their country as they could effectively have to lose their jobs because they've become more 'expensive'. So a player like Sykes for example wouldn't be able to find a club who would even pay him minimum wage because his points value is so high. I'm not sure there's a better method than judging a player's worth by what a club is prepared to pay for him.

Off the top of my head, what about a rule that says you must release a player to another club if they offer you say double the value of his remaining contract as a transfer fee? So let's say for the sake of argument there was a Super League club called Wirrington and they had an international prop call Marley. Let's also say that Wirrington have found a way round the cap so although players of Marley's calibre generally earn in excess of £100k, the club only pay Marley £40k. Now when Marley has for example two years left on his contract they have to accept a transfer fee of £160k for him.

(Just for the record all these numbers are completely made up, and any resemblance to any player past or present is purely coincidental).

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Quote: Mission "The problem I see with this system is that surely players (and/or their clubs) would be reluctant to play for their country as they could effectively have to lose their jobs because they've become more 'expensive'. So a player like Sykes for example wouldn't be able to find a club who would even pay him minimum wage because his points value is so high. I'm not sure there's a better method than judging a player's worth by what a club is prepared to pay for him.

Off the top of my head, what about a rule that says you must release a player to another club if they offer you say double the value of his remaining contract as a transfer fee? So let's say for the sake of argument there was a Super League club called Wirrington and they had an international prop call Marley. Let's also say that Wirrington have found a way round the cap so although players of Marley's calibre generally earn in excess of £100k, the club only pay Marley £40k. Now when Marley has for example two years left on his contract they have to accept a transfer fee of £160k for him.

(Just for the record all these numbers are completely made up, and any resemblance to any player past or present is purely coincidental).'"



doesnt that just bias things in favour of clubs with rich backers even more as they'd have funds to pay the transfer fees and cherry pick the best players? how often are the smaller clubs going to be able to afford to pay a transfer fee?.

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Strangely, Phil Clarke came up with an idea a year or two ago which I thought was interesting. If a club wanted to spend above the cap they could do so but had to compensate the other clubs at a rate of say - 5:1.

ie Wigan wanted to go £100k above the cap so had to pay £500k into the pot to be shared out to the other 13 clubs.

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Quote: Highlander "Strangely, Phil Clarke came up with an idea a year or two ago which I thought was interesting. If a club wanted to spend above the cap they could do so but had to compensate the other clubs at a rate of say - 5
If everyone were totally happy that [iall[/i clubs were being honest and above board with the basic cap then I guess this kind of thing could be considered but, as it is, it just seems to be petty tinkering which isn't going to achieve very much. To bring in a very old cliche, moving the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind.

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Quote: Bulliac "If everyone were totally happy that [iall[/i clubs were being honest and above board with the basic cap then I guess this kind of thing could be considered but, as it is, it just seems to be petty tinkering which isn't going to achieve very much. To bring in a very old cliche, moving the deckchairs on the Titanic springs to mind.'"


I propose that all clubs found guilty of fiddling the salary cap should not get a licence next time. Only that way can we be sure the game is cleansed.

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Quote: tigertot "I propose that all clubs found guilty of fiddling the salary cap should not get a licence next time. Only that way can we be sure the game is cleansed.'"


What happens when a breach is not deliberate?

Shouod not happen anyway with a live cap, unless players are receiving money from "unconnected" third parties who are actually "connected" or are otherwise receiving money for playing that is not recorded through the club's records?

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Quote: Adeybull "What happens when a breach is not deliberate?'"


I would look into the CEO's minces & see if he was lying (it would be a he because Kath would never do anything naughty). I would have Phil Collins do a drum roll, wait for what seemed like an hour in an X-factor stylee, before turning my thumb down. I would have an executioner with a black sack over his head who would then decapitate Phil Collins for being a right-wing, miserable, baldy git who said he would come back to GB if the Tories got in. The CEO would get 50 lines saying I must not cheat the salary cap again.

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Bit hard on the CEO, that?

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Quote: Adeybull "Bit hard on the CEO, that?'"


60 if the player involved pretended to be Welsh.

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60 sodding LASHES for that!

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Quote: tigertot "60 if the player involved pretended to be Welsh.'"

But supposing his grandmother [ireally did[/i own a Welsh dresser?

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Quote: Bulliac "But supposing his grandmother [ireally did[/i own a Welsh dresser?'"


A cross one?

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Quote: tigertot "A cross one?'"

I don't think anyone would want an angry dresser icon_eek.gif Asking for trouble when tugging on the zips......Ouch

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Quote: tigertot "As regards 3rd party image rights. If it does exist I am amazed it is not more out in the open. When I & my more talented mates played everyone seemed to know who was on what at most clubs. I would be surprised that no jealous, aggrieved, desperate player hasn't spilled the beans. Or perhaps I am now too remote from the game.'"

It's all different now.

What goes in Nando's, stays in Nando's.

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