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My blog post taking in the Orford situation.

Re: all the comments hoping he gets injured, I can understand people are upset but to wish that on someone is farcical and you should all be ashamed of yourself. Yes, Orford's screwed us over well and truly, but why wish that on someone?
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My blog post taking in the Orford situation.

Re: all the comments hoping he gets injured, I can understand people are upset but to wish that on someone is farcical and you should all be ashamed of yourself. Yes, Orford's screwed us over well and truly, but why wish that on someone?


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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Mission "Just to pick you up on a slight inaccuracy, it is Orford's agent who is on holiday, not Orford. But nevertheless to wait to ask the Bulls for a release to coincide with your agent going off on his jollies doesn't sound much like a mistake to me

Orford IS on holiday right now actually.

He is in Broadbeach Queensland.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Orford IS on holiday right now actually.

He is in Broadbeach Queensland.'"


Sure , he's been on holiday for 6 months(!), but I think the original poster was quoted as saying "on holiday in America" which Mission rightly corrected, as that is where his agent is.

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The BBC also report Orford is in America but I did think it was his manager!

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I think the T&A says manager in America, so I'd tend to go with that being the most accurate here

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My blog post taking in the Orford situation.

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Well he hasn't 'screwed you over' has he?

He was a good player for you... but he got an offer to do the same job in a better place.

And at the end of the day... being a pro Rugby League player is a JOB.


I don't know what job you do for a living... lets pick one at random... you can work in a factory in Ireland making dresses.

So you work in this dress making factory in Ireland...you earn a good amount of money. They have told you that you can live in a nice Irish house, the beer in Ireland is good, the food is great and the dress making factory will probably be the best dress making company in the whole of Ireland. So you tell them you will work for them making these dresses for 3 or 4 years because it sounds great.

But you find it rains every day, the accommodation they have given you to live in isn't that crash hot, you cant understand what the locals say, the food is cráp, the beer is vile and the company you work for turn out to be pretty poor at dress making.

You feel fed up.

Some one then comes up to you and says 'hey Aaron... come and work in my dress making factory back in bradford. The money wont be quite as good... but at least you will be able to understand what the locals are saying, you will be able to drink warm bitter in pubs again and you will be with your family and friends. Come home son. We will even throw a whippet and a flat cap in for you.'


Would you go?




Of course you would.


What the Ox has done is no different.


Build a bridge and get over it.

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I'd be up front with my current employers about it at the very least. I don't know if anyone blames him for actually being homesick (I certainly don't) but seeking employment in secret whilst contracted and waiting until you have extracted every last penny from your existing employer before leaving them in the lurch with no time to find a replacement is just shows him to be completely void of any honesty, decency or integrity.



IMO.

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Matt Orford a good player for us?

LMAO, dont think so.

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Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Matt Orford a good player for us?

LMAO, dont think so.'"


You can deny that when he was on the field he was a good player. He beat the eventual SL champions on his own.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Well he hasn't 'screwed you over' has he?

He was a good player for you... but he got an offer to do the same job in a better place.

And at the end of the day... being a pro Rugby League player is a JOB.


I don't know what job you do for a living... lets pick one at random... you can work in a factory in Ireland making dresses.

So you work in this dress making factory in Ireland...you earn a good amount of money. They have told you that you can live in a nice Irish house, the beer in Ireland is good, the food is great and the dress making factory will probably be the best dress making company in the whole of Ireland. So you tell them you will work for them making these dresses for 3 or 4 years because it sounds great.

But you find it rains every day, the accommodation they have given you to live in isn't that crash hot, you cant understand what the locals say, the food is cráp, the beer is vile and the company you work for turn out to be pretty poor at dress making.

You feel fed up.

Some one then comes up to you and says 'hey Aaron... come and work in my dress making factory back in bradford. The money wont be quite as good... but at least you will be able to understand what the locals are saying, you will be able to drink warm bitter in pubs again and you will be with your family and friends. Come home son. We will even throw a whippet and a flat cap in for you.'


Would you go?




Of course you would.


What the Ox has done is no different.


Build a bridge and get over it.'"

But it is highly unlikely that a factory in Ireland will operate with a fixed term contract and a requirement for a third party to agree to a registration for me to work there.

So, come back with a good analogy and we might listen to you.

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Didn't Sonny Bill Williams use the Bus driving job as a comparison to his former manager when he left lol?

Quote: Bulls4Champs2010 "Matt Orford a good player for us?

LMAO, dont think so.'"


Do you post as Bullschamp on BBC?

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I thought Orford was a good player for us, and was certainly better than Deacs was in his last 2 season for Bradford.

I dont blame hime for wanting to be at home with his family, I expect I would miss my family too if i was on other side of the world.

It didnt work out, and people change their minds, that doesnt mean it is disengenuous.. In fact, I myself have given backword on a job before starting, and pulled out of buying a house in the last 12 months - does that make me as disengenuous as him?

He is an adult, so are we, he has made his choice, he will be replaced, and we will be fine. I wish him success back home, and have no ill feeling to him at all, those that do baffle me..

What difference does it make? Honestly?

He played more games for us last year than Deacs played for Wigan, he won man of the match for probably 50% of those games he played, and we will replace him with a younger aussie with a lot more games in him, a point to prove, and earning less money.. win win if you ask me. (which you didnt)

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I'm not too sure on this one. I liked him as a player in the NRL and was thrilled when we signed him. He had some excellent games for us but got injured.

IIRC, most on here said that Sam would be mad not to choose Aus over England - doesn't the same apply for Orford. I'd love to have a fully commited Matt Orford in our side, but if he doesn't want to be here then what can we do. Okay, he shouldn't have signed a 3 year contract, but if he is genuinely homesick (i'm still not sure he is, seen as this cropped up whilst he was back home) then he can't help it.

I do think he should have handled it better, and told the club that he didn't want to come back as soon as he felt that way. That's the only think I hold against him, he's been taking our money happily until it's time to show up for pre-season training.

Anyway, it will all be over in a couple of weeks, and we can look forward to having a new 7 who wants to play in the RA&B (Hopefully)

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He should have handled it a lot better.

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Quote: Bullseye "He should have handled it a lot better.'"


Yeah - personally I have no issue if he wants to go home. It's all this perceived sneakiness (for that is all it is, we will probably never knowwho said what) that has really damaged his reputation as a person for me. If he'd been straight with the club/fans from the start then he could have left with a bit more dignity in tact.

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