FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Bradford Bulls > new chairman
88 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
RankPostsTeam
International Star1934No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



If I'd read that I wouldn't have bought the season ticket. A Chairman who has come to own the club through a series of calamities that he was directly involved in, tells the supporters that he doesn't really want the job and that online criticism of him is not informed when he has offered not one single word of explanation and his former mates at the RFL refused an inquiry.

I think this is almost as shameful as today's performance.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1923
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: M@islebugs "If I'd read that I wouldn't have bought the season ticket. A Chairman who has come to own the club through a series of calamities that he was directly involved in, tells the supporters that he doesn't really want the job and that online criticism of him is not informed when he has offered not one single word of explanation and his former mates at the RFL refused an inquiry.

I think this is almost as shameful as today's performance.'"


depressing ... the infamous bulls saga rolls ever onwards. one day we will tap our heals together and realize it was all a dream and back in Kansas

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman632No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



A lot of softballs in that interview, I guess the price that has to be paid for him to break his silence.

Not filled with confidence when he points to London having paid the price for a nomadic past, when surely we are the ultimate example of a club that is a shadow of its former self and that happened exclusively when we were playing at Odsal.

If we could get any kind of real answers out of him, it would be interesting to know why we've been fed this "Nigel is a minority shareholder, he has no interest in the actual club" rubbish for nearly two years when most people who take an interest knew this was coming.

The club's had an easy ride over the past 18 months cos of Covid, but the fact is in the last full season we were challenging for promotion and knocked Leeds out of the cup. Now we've sold all the players, not even in Bradford and getting stuffed left, right and and yet all the pre season guff was how we were fully stable now thanks to Sawyer, Wood and Co. I fear 2021 will have a lot of chickens coming home to roost for us - maybe the trade press will start asking questions then rather than telling us to suck it up. Given they didn't even bother covering the announcement that the former RFL head had taken over at the club in the last remaining paper last week, I won't hold my breath.

The sad thing is, present company excepted, most fans left probably don't care. Results this year might change things, but I doubt it. Will just see JK sacked first rather than asking why on earth the former champions of the world are getting thumped playing a home game in Dewsbury in front of 1000 people on a Monday night

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2051
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



To be fair comparing to the 2019 team that was clearly funded on sand doesn’t give a fair reflection. On paper the 2019 team beat Leeds and pushed for promotion but once again was unsustainable.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman632No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Betsy Bulls "To be fair comparing to the 2019 team that was clearly funded on sand doesn’t give a fair reflection. On paper the 2019 team beat Leeds and pushed for promotion but once again was unsustainable.'"


Do you agree with the position the club is in now and the decisions that have been made since? If not then its kind of a moot point in my wider argument, but I know what you're getting at. Let's not forget we were told when we went for SL promotion when Toronto went bust we were SL Ready...!

I'm not interested in another cutting our cloth debate, but we've let promising young players go and brought in Danny Brough who won't be cheap so it's not like we've got no money. I don't think you can look at some of the plodders out on the paddock in a Bulls shirt this season and think that's stability. There are plenty of other teams with a worse budget than us that would currently play us off the park. That's my issue, Sawyer, Wood et al are yet another emperors new clothes.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach1219No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Sep 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: amberavenger "Do you agree with the position the club is in now and the decisions that have been made since? If not then its kind of a moot point in my wider argument, but I know what you're getting at. Let's not forget we were told when we went for SL promotion when Toronto went bust we were SL Ready...!

I'm not interested in another cutting our cloth debate, but we've let promising young players go and brought in Danny Brough who won't be cheap so it's not like we've got no money. I don't think you can look at some of the plodders out on the paddock in a Bulls shirt this season and think that's stability. There are plenty of other teams with a worse budget than us that would currently play us off the park. That's my issue, Sawyer, Wood et al are yet another emperors new clothes.'"



Would you care to elaborate on what our budget is and which clubs are spending less and what their budgets are?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3216
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: amberavenger "Do you agree with the position the club is in now and the decisions that have been made since? If not then its kind of a moot point in my wider argument, but I know what you're getting at. Let's not forget we were told when we went for SL promotion when Toronto went bust we were SL Ready...!

I'm not interested in another cutting our cloth debate, but we've let promising young players go and brought in Danny Brough who won't be cheap so it's not like we've got no money. I don't think you can look at some of the plodders out on the paddock in a Bulls shirt this season and think that's stability. There are plenty of other teams with a worse budget than us that would currently play us off the park. That's my issue, Sawyer, Wood et al are yet another emperors new clothes.'"


Up until yesterday, I thought the club had done a reasonable job stabilising things after Chalmers had spent more money than we had, again. Crucially last season they’d avoided administration by paying off all the creditors Chalmers had left. I don’t know what effect Covid has had on the club finances but I thought there may have been a surplus due to staff furlough. After the reserves were cut, up to 10 players were released (are these the young players you mean?) as they had no way of being played.
I suppose it all depends on how much club funds are being diverted into the stadium.
Would this be a good season if we finished mid table, back at a slightly improved Odsal, with our academy renewed for another 5 years and no hint of an administration event? I would say that would fit an acceptable season for me. If all those things happened and we got into playoffs, I would call it a good season.

RankPostsTeam
International Star738No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201410 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jan 2024Nov 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Without Nigel Wood and others, the club would of gone into Administration again in 2019, it appears Nigel Wood can't win as if he didnt step up he would of got blamed for it, now he has stepped up he is getting blamed for it, look at the accounts under Chalmers and what they are now. With the introduction of the squad booster and a limited budget on players it appears we are now trying to manage on an affordable scale, you then get fans complaining we aren't spending enough which is what caused the problems in the first place.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2051
JoinedServiceReputation
Nov 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



The recruitment can’t be left at the door of Sawyer and Wood. You can argue the signings are where we are as a budget but we surely have to be as happy as we can be that we are (I hope) living within our means

RankPostsTeam
International Star1934No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2023Mar 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bulls2487 "Without Nigel Wood and others, the club would of gone into Administration again in 2019, it appears Nigel Wood can't win as if he didnt step up he would of got blamed for it, now he has stepped up he is getting blamed for it, look at the accounts under Chalmers and what they are now. With the introduction of the squad booster and a limited budget on players it appears we are now trying to manage on an affordable scale, you then get fans complaining we aren't spending enough which is what caused the problems in the first place.'"


He's the reason Chalmers owned the club, if in fact he actually owned it all. People from within the RFL coughed 'Nigel Wood' whenever Chalmers and the Bulls were mentioned, for instance when he arrived from NZ without the money to open a bank account so had to use the RFL's account for season tickets. He's neck deep in this going back 9 years.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman632No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Highlander "Up until yesterday, I thought the club had done a reasonable job stabilising things after Chalmers had spent more money than we had, again. Crucially last season they’d avoided administration by paying off all the creditors Chalmers had left. I don’t know what effect Covid has had on the club finances but I thought there may have been a surplus due to staff furlough. After the reserves were cut, up to 10 players were released (are these the young players you mean?) as they had no way of being played.
I suppose it all depends on how much club funds are being diverted into the stadium.
Would this be a good season if we finished mid table, back at a slightly improved Odsal, with our academy renewed for another 5 years and no hint of an administration event? I would say that would fit an acceptable season for me. If all those things happened and we got into playoffs, I would call it a good season.'"


I don't think they are unreasonable expectations.

Personally I think as 2020 was an enforced fallow year for the Championship, its given the illusion that the club has been stable for 18 months. Whilst other clubs have used it as an excuse to regroup and crack on - what we have needed for a long time - it seems everyone from the board room down look to have been happy with the bare minimum.

Given we have a speedway fan group begging for money to repaint Odsal, I'm not convinced money is being funneled into the stadium

Could be a long old season. A mid table finish is looking pretty good right now.

RankPostsTeam
International Chairman632No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2023Jul 2023LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bulls2487 "Without Nigel Wood and others, the club would of gone into Administration again in 2019, it appears Nigel Wood can't win as if he didnt step up he would of got blamed for it, now he has stepped up he is getting blamed for it, look at the accounts under Chalmers and what they are now. With the introduction of the squad booster and a limited budget on players it appears we are now trying to manage on an affordable scale, you then get fans complaining we aren't spending enough which is what caused the problems in the first place.'"


Bit of a bizzare statement to suggest people would have blamed Nigel Wood for not stepping up in 2019. The only person to blame if the club went into admin would have been the people involved in running the club at the time. Surely that wasnt Nigel, was it....?

I haven't seen any complaints asking us to spend more money, more to be more considerate on the money we do spend - eg Danny Brough?

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach2058
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



We cant be accused of not spending money. Brough and Murphy wont have come cheap. However I think the main issue again is a bloated squad of average at best unproven players.

The squad is Kears responsibility, as is the "tactics" we have continued to use during his time.

I get stability but on the field we are a sinking ship and no 38yr old is going to stop that when the other players around him arent up to the job.

Plenty of squads that cost far less look much better at this moment in time.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach4473
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200915 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bullinenemyland "Plenty of squads that cost far less look much better at this moment in time.'"
Sheffield and Swinton are a prime example of this. Their squads looked fitter and more creative than ours on what I can only assume is a smaller budget than ours.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach9157No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200520 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: bullinenemyland "We cant be accused of not spending money. Brough and Murphy wont have come cheap. However I think the main issue again is a bloated squad of average at best unproven players.

The squad is Kears responsibility, as is the "tactics" we have continued to use during his time.

I get stability but on the field we are a sinking ship and no 38yr old is going to stop that when the other players around him arent up to the job.

Plenty of squads that cost far less look much better at this moment in time.'"

Yep I agree. It would seem that we have spent disproportionately across the squad as things stand. No point bringing in Danny Brough if the pack is unfit and lacking quality. Unfortunately we look to be carrying few passengers and John Kear has to take responsibility for that. He is in year 3 of his rebuild so he will need to get this bunch playing for him or the pressure will mount. It's still early days so I'm loathed to press the panic button but we look a long way behind a lot of clubs and it is difficult to see how we can turn things around in such a short space of time.

88 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin
88 posts in 7 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


2.97705078125:10
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
How many games will we win
18th Man
52
11m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2624
17m
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
19m
Film game
Boss Hog
5822
32m
2025 Season tickets
FIL
216
53m
2025 Shirt
Azul
24
Recent
Ground Improvements
Start@1873
226
Recent
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
225
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Father Ted
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
Rumours and signings v9
apollosghost
28911
30s
Ground Improvements
Start@1873
226
39s
Pre Season - 2025
Hasbag
202
47s
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
47
51s
Getting a new side to gel
Highlander
8
1m
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
6
3m
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2516
4m
Former players
Wanderer
1332
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
47
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,756 80,15614,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
       Championship 2025-R1
18:00
Toulouse
v
Widnes
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
       Championship 2025-R1
15:00
Bradford
v
LondonB
15:00
Featherstone
v
Doncaster
15:00
Oldham
v
York
15:00
Sheffield
v
Halifax
15:00
Barrow
v
Hunslet
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
       League One 2025-R1
15:00
Cornwall
v
Workington
15:00
Dewsbury
v
Crusaders
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
4m
How many games will we win
18th Man
52
11m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2624
17m
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
19m
Film game
Boss Hog
5822
32m
2025 Season tickets
FIL
216
53m
2025 Shirt
Azul
24
Recent
Ground Improvements
Start@1873
226
Recent
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
Recent
2025 Recruitment
dddooommm
225
Recent
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Father Ted
18
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
28s
Rumours and signings v9
apollosghost
28911
30s
Ground Improvements
Start@1873
226
39s
Pre Season - 2025
Hasbag
202
47s
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
47
51s
Getting a new side to gel
Highlander
8
1m
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
2m
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
6
3m
Rumours thread
Khlav Kalash
2516
4m
Former players
Wanderer
1332
4m
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Quiz night
H.G.S.A
1
TODAY
Co-Captains for 2025
chapylad
5
TODAY
Cornwall has a new owner
Huddersfield
1
TODAY
Callum Shaw
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Squad Numbers
phe13
4
TODAY
Rhinos squad numbers
Rixy
1
TODAY
Squad numbers
Warrior Wing
8
TODAY
Mat Crowther pre season update
Dunkirk Spir
1
TODAY
Mike Cooper podcast
rubber ducki
6
TODAY
Shirt reveal coming soon
Shifty Cat
47
TODAY
Opening Championship and League One Fixtures for 2025 Released
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!