I don't think it's fitness. We've dominated field position in every game so far, that's including being without Blackmore, Scurr, Baldwinson and Doro for a large part of yesterday. But we need to be better.

Credit to widnes I thought they played well, as disappointing as we were.

This has to be a game we learn from and address the issues before Wakey. We have a hard start so can't afford to be realising, Hallas discipline is poor, Flanagan not good enough to be second Hooker, Jowitts not a half etc

If we can get Corey Johnson he would be good cover at half back and on the bench to interchange with Souter at hooker.

Has Aiden McGowan every played halfback?

Just watching the post-match reaction from EOC and the running theme was 'execution' and the lack of support. He has also stated that Doro has a 'significant' ankle injury .

We'll see what effect EOC's words have on the players at the Swinton match. We need a massive increase in intensity.

Not only is Doro out but it didn't sound hopeful that Gaskell will be back either. Not sure how far off Scurr is but we could do with him back. It'd be good to get Johnson on loan if at all possible since Flanagan doing 60mins with possibly Barraclough doing 20mins isn't going to help us win the ruck. Also looks as if we'll be down to 3 bona fide props in Smith, Lawrence and Okoro.

Not sure how long Peposhi is out for but we could use an injection of enthusiasm.

At halfback if Gaskell is out then it's Jowitt and Lilley again. As far as I know McGowan has only played fullback and wing. Did we let Moss go?

Shame we didn't give Myles Lawford more games last season - he may have been more likely to stay if he'd been given more chances to start - we could've done with him now - hey ho.

We're going to see a hooking partnership of Hallas/Flanagan aren't we icon_sad.gif

We won’t get Johnson if it cup ties him, just not sure if he can be cup tied in the CC by playing in the 1895

or maybe we lost on purpose .... 1895, 1066 cup is more of a priority.. i know no player wants to give the towel (yes we've had a bug) ...but are we just planning the long run (lets hope)

wakey at home for the 1895 looks tasty and a big gate

I don't think we have been as poor as yesterday since the away game at Keighley last year. That was a combination of us being very poor and Cougars being very good.

That was not the case against Widnes. Apart from being well marshalled around the field by Gilmore, I don't think Widnes particularly offered anything that we shouldn't have been able to overcome, We lost purely down to how bad we were.

Whilst the warning signs were there from the start in terms of lack of creativity, the key turning point for me was the loss of Doro. From that point, instead of being camped inside their 30m we ended up losing ground and momentum which ended with us playing in our own half for the rest of the game.

Clearly injuries and absences are causing us issues. Three months ago we would have expected Holmes, Blackmore, Gaskell, Scurr and England to be in the starting 17. McGowan has been more than a capable replacement at full back, but we have lacked the strength in depth to cover the other losses.

Lilley's deficiencies as a half back are exposed when he doesn't have a Gaskell alongside him to take that weight off his shoulders. Who ever chose him as MOTM wants their head examining. And As much as I appreciate Billy Jowett's enthusiasm, he is not a half back in any shape or form.

Flanagan and Hallas... why are they getting a game??? Neither offer anything other than being lazy, sluggish and penalty conceding machines. Last week I did think Hallas had turned a corner but he was back to his normal self on Sunday.

How bad is Dan Smith? I thought Ant Walker and Levy Nzoungou lacked mobility but this guy takes it to a whole new level. I thought they announced a Super League prop... more like Super League Pudding!!! Someone please put him on a diet and get him fit.

I really hope to see something different against Swinton. A real positive for me would be to give some of the younger lads a run to show what they can do. Give Barraclough a go at hooker instead of GFS, the kid is decent and needs a run. I'd say the same for Jamie Gill. That lad is an absolute unit and doesn't take a backward step. Also where the hell as Eliot Peposhi gone?

Put Myers back to centre, Oakes or Scurr on wing and Arundel to SR (which actually suited him better last season) with Davies as 13. I doubt this will happen though and we will see a virtually unchanged side apart from those newly injured or suspended.

My only hope right now is that we end up picking up some decent re-enforcements after the Easter period in a similar way we did last year. Tuafoa, Gaskell, Baitieri and Segeyaro all joined late and offered a great deal. I'm sure we could do the same again with some clever recruitment.

Agree above. Whilst I don't think we need to go OTT with yesterday's result, I think we need to freshen things up a bit.

Fully agree bringing Oakes on in wing so Myers can go back at centre and Arundel at back row.

I too would love to see Barraclough get a run out. We always have an academy player who breaks through. But I think EOC will put Hallas in there sadly.

I think Smith has been one of the people with illness in the camp. His endurance has been worse over the last 2- 3 games than his preseason efforts. Would he not work at LF? I thought he’s supposed to have a good off load game.

To be fair bits and bats he does do well is when they move the ball that first try (I think it was the first) the got the ball moving well and he was at the heart of the build up from memory