Well, if it actually takes place, and isn't 'deferred', then I guess the outcome will in the public domain pretty quickly - whatever the desires of of parties concerned!

rlhttps://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/court-lists/list-companies-winding-uprl

The court seems quite busy today, 201 companies to get through. As well as ourselves, scanning down the Companies Court Winding Up List, it seems its an RFL day out; we're up early doors and then we have some other RFL clubs, maybe its a job lot type of thing?

31. CR-2016-003939 BRADFORD BULLS NORTHERN LIMITED
108. CR-2016-005429 Salford City Reds Limited
131. CR-2016-005496 OLDHAM RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB (1997) LIMITED
172. CR-2016-005576 FEATHERSTONE ROVERS RUGBY LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB LIMITED
177. CR-2016-005582 SHEFFIELD EAGLES 2000 LIMITED


#everyminutematters....in court 17.

Should be done soon hopefully.

I'm going to have to stop reading the comments part on the T&A website. It just makes my blood boil!!! I mean why the f*ck would a guy risk his business, family home and sanity to "play" Billy Big Boll*cks??? Still the morons will continue to protest they were right all along.

Having seen a few companies go through this, its likely to be a dispute with HMRC over the actual amount of tax to pay. It happens more than you would think and whilst stronger/more financially sound companies can afford to pay now and challenge later, smaller ones cannot. That's what I'm hearing this is... paying the calculated amount would cause more problems than it would solve going to court.

Expect by now we have either accepted a new balance and this will be thrown out, or we still disagree and it will be adjourned until a mediation process can be completed.

Either way, I'm reasonably comfortable (notice this is a difference between 100% sure) that my £242.25 spent on membership last week is secure

Ha!

It's my payday today so will buying mine tomorrow. At least I hope I will.

It's Bulls' payday too, IIRC....

UPDATE: Taken from T&A

Bradford Bulls rugby league club bosses say they will pay tens of thousands of pounds owed to the taxman.

Officials at HM Revenue and Customs today asked for the club to be wound up at a hearing in a Bankruptcy & Companies Court in London.

But a judge, Registrar Nicholas Briggs, said he would review the case on November 14 after a lawyer representing the club said money would be paid.

The judge heard there was a disagreement over how much the taxman was owed.

Tax officials say the club owes around £350,000 - club bosses say the debt is around £133,000.


Barrister Rowena Page told the judge that more than £100,000 had already been paid.

Outside court, club chairman Marc Green said debts would be cleared.

"I am grateful to my barrister for her ability," he said.

"It is not a comfortable position to be in."

That's a big bill, it seems unclear when the full amount would need to be found but I assume a fair chunk would need to be paid in the next 14 days?

suppose it depends what the final figure they've agreen on is. If its the 350k figure ( less 100k already paid) then it could take some finding. But it sounds like its a lot closer to 133k club thinks and it says they've already paid over 100k. Remaining amount would be in tens of thousands range mentioned in article.

Not that I advocate companies not paying tax, if we owe 250k then that's 250k more than Vodafone, Starbucks, Amazon, etc pay between them. Why don't THEY get winding ups? Oh, sorry, I forgot, they are so big, they don't actually have to pay a penny, by gentlemens' agreement.

Back to the petition, it seems HMRC couldn't prove the amount claimed, cos if they had, HMRC would've got their order.

Is there no information about the actual dispute? What are these amounts in relation to?
VAT? Corp tax? NIC? I'd love to know the cases both sides are putting forward.

I'm just guessing when i say this, but i expect this dept to be old, and they keep paying little bits to keep HMRC happy and they have no decided they have had enough and want the lot.

I seem to remember when this first came up there was an article on the Bulls site in which they said it was a dispute over VAT? Presumably if so, it would be over whether or not something is liable to VAT or zero rated.

Perhaps the Judge has said that if we can pay up to what we think is due (the £133k) then he'll stay proceedings while we dispute, but if we can't then there would be no point and he'll wind us up anyway? That would make sense to me but it's pure speculation.

Pretty simple really. Green deducts Tax and NI from players and staff wages (when he pays them) and this should be paid to HMRC in a timely manner. Unfortunately for Bulls fans it looks like this isn't happening and it seems to be a pattern of how this guy runs his businesses.

Good luck to the club in getting through this, no fault of the loyal fans who keep getting kicked.