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| Quote: FONT "You won't see this then
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You really are a tiresome buffoon.
The irony, of course, is that HKR could well be next. I would rather it didn't, but if it did, I'm sure that Bulls fans will do all we can for any other club in this position.
Still, if it does, at least you'll have a bigger and better club in your city to support.
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| Quote: Adeybull "The RFL's commissioned professional valuer.
Now, was there anything ELSE that you wanted to make a total tìt of yoiurself over? We appreciate you coming on here to proivide some comic relief - and we sure as hell could do with some after what we have been through - but you really would be better off self-destructing on your own time.'"
I would love to see it.
And how many RL teams in Bradford could buy your ground?
Take your heads out of the sand; the whole thing is corrupt to the core.
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| Quote: Stul "You really are a tiresome buffoon.
The irony, of course, is that HKR could well be next. I would rather it didn't, but if it did, I'm sure that Bulls fans will do all we can for any other club in this position.
Still, if it does, at least you'll have a bigger and better club in your city to support.'"
Like I keep saying, it makes no difference if we do go bust, the RFL have set a precedent now, that is my whole point, you guys are thick!!
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| Quote: Adeybull "What handouts? List them please? ps. payments of Sky monies are not handouts.
How much money did Hull KR take the local businesses for when it went into administration?
Or Wakefield? Or Crusaders? Or Widnes? Or the various others that have done likewise, as well as London who took HMRC for more in real terms that the Bulls cost them?
Off you go sunshine, lets hear it and lets hear your vitriol against THOSE clubs too?'"
Well how nice that the fans don't recognise the fact that when the request came out a lot of people from the rugby league community put their hands in their pockets- If that's not taking handouts then I don't know what is. I began to regret my generosity just afterwards when we had the rubbish thrown towards our club regarding incorrect information about ticket sales. Some of you would do well to recognise that if it wasn't for the generosity of people also outside the bulls also then you might not be in a position to be so ungrateful about it. Please show some humility- you can bet that any rallying cry will be largely ignored of it should happen again. And as far as I'm aware the majority of Wakefield debts were paid, they bit the bullet and sold some assets. I suggest The vitriol isn't there towards those other clubs as their fans behaved differently.
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| Well on that basis shouldnt you be praising the RFL for protecting yours and everyone elses club from liquidation instead of condemning the RFL as corrupt??
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| Quote: Bulls4 "Hence why i didnt respond! I think its best we all go on supporting our own teams and looking after our own houses!
If the rumours are true about KR (which i honestly hope they aren't) then you will have much more important things to do then try to burst our balls!'"
What are the rumours then
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| There are plenty of threads on the KR situation on various boards! Take a look for yourself...
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| Quote: Bulls4 "There are plenty of threads on the KR situation on various boards! Take a look for yourself...'"
I do know I have read and listened to interviews our board are cutting the cloth so we don't end up like the bulls and if other rumours are to be true the millionaire egyptian is going to be taking over, rovers will go back a couple of seasons to be able to go forward and I'm all for it
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| And i dont have any issue with that at all! Hence my origianl post in which you quoted! It was not an attack on your team it was a view into the fact petty arguing between fans help no one!
I hold no bad feeling towards any other team and i travel to the majority of away games i can get to and enjoy the game!
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| Quote: jools "Well how nice that the fans don't recognise the fact that when the request came out a lot of people from the rugby league community put their hands in their pockets.'"
Sorry? Where has anyone said they did not recognise and appreciate the generosity of others?
Quote: jools "If that's not taking handouts then I don't know what is'"
Sorry? What has this to do with the allegations of the RFL giving us handouts?
Quote: jools " I began to regret my generosity just afterwards when we had the rubbish thrown towards our club regarding incorrect information about ticket sales. '"
Sorry? What on earth are you talking about?
Quote: jools "Some of you would do well to recognise that if it wasn't for the generosity of people also outside the bulls also then you might not be in a position to be do ungrateful about it. Please show some humility- you can bet that any rallying cry will be largely ignored of it should happen again.'"
Sorry? See my earlier point. We are reacting to those who come on here in a state of heightened apoplexy, insulting us and making it clear that they were looking forward to seeing us booted out. Usually in their own self-interest. Sometimes for reasons that only they seem to understand. What this has to do with the generous and appreciated help earlier from the wider RL community I fail to see? We fans are blameless, and are all too aware that our club ended up in this state through the actions and inactions of others - and in particular, the conduct of a scandalous set of major shareholders who put their internal petty squabbles ahead of everything else. But we are hardly going to lie down and take it when some people come on here attacking the fans, totally unreasonably, for things that were not in any way our fault.
Quote: jools "And as far as I'm aware the majority of Wakefield debts were paid, they bit the bullet and sold some assets.'"
Sorry? By whom? How much did HMRC receive? Glover paid off some smaller local creditors, as I recall? And how much TV money were you denied as a result? Wait till you see what happens to us on that score before you start throwing stones on THAT score.
Now, was there anything factual you wanted to have a sensible debate about?
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| Quote: Adeybull " Usually in their own self-interest. '"
How the hell is it in ANY other club's "self interest" for a fellow club to go to the wall? What about lost revenue, the failure of a club damaging the whole sport etc etc?
Talk sense ffs.
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| Quote: fartownfan "How the hell is it in ANY other club's "self interest" for a fellow club to go to the wall? What about lost revenue, the failure of a club damaging the whole sport etc etc?
Talk sense ffs.'"
Who said anything about clubs' self-interest? I was referring to some who come on here ranting off.
Did you rail in the same way against London, Crusaders, Wakefield, Widnes, HKR and all the other clubs that have gone to the wall?
Will you rail in the same way about those that WILL go to the wall?
Did you rail against your OWN club over the infamous "merger" with the Egales? Or the infamous "merger" of Gateshead and Hull? DID YOU?????
The strange thing abouyt all this is that we have heard virtually nothing from those clubs who have NOT been through some form of insolvency or bailout in recent years. yet they are the ones who you would expect to have a legitimate grievance. Don't think any of us are fooled by all this "good of the game" bollox - it is as clear as day that its the green-eyed monster rearing its head. Folk are comparing it with how they perceive THEIR club was treated. Well we can play at that too - why were we not treated the same way as London and Wakefield?
As for your own club, I suggest some saw it as very much IN your interest if we fell over. Despite the huge amounts that Davy has poured in, the people of Huddersfield have STILL not turned out in the numbers he must have expected, and the performances on the park have STILL fallen well short. Maybe the prospect of picking off our academy and fans, and having less local competition, appealed to some?
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| Quote: Adeybull "Did you rail in the same way against London, Crusaders, Wakefield, Widnes, HKR and all the other clubs that have gone to the wall?
Will you rail in the same way about those that WILL go to the wall?
Did you rail against your OWN club over the infamous "merger" with the Egales? Or the infamous "merger" of Gateshead and Hull? DID YOU?????
The strange thing abouyt all this is that we have heard virtually nothing from those clubs who have NOT been through some form of insolvency or bailout in recent years. yet they are the ones who you would expect to have a legitimate grievance.
As for your own club, I suggest some saw it as very much IN your interest if we fell over. Despite the huge amounts that Davy has poured in, the people of Huddersfield have STILL not turned out in the numbers he must have expected, and the performances on the park have STILL fallen well short. Maybe the prospect of picking off our academy and fans, and having less local competition, appealed to some?'"
Are you ill? Seriously?
I am not "railing" at anyone or anything. It's all in your own mind.
What I am saying is this. It is in no-one's interest who cares about RL in general for ANY club to go tits up. It makes us all look bad & robs us all of income.
Read my post again & attempt to curb your ridiculous persecution complex. You accuse other fans of belittling your club whilst adopting the same tactics in defending your own.
Grow up.
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| And you read MY posts again. We have had a string of unwarranted nasty and personal attacks all evening from a handful of individuals who have no justification for such tirades against us fans. You would n ot take siuch cräp lying down; neither should we be expected to. If anyone is ill or is suffering from a persecution complex it is they.
I ask again - did you express yourself in just the same way over all the other insolvencies and bailouts? Or is it just because it is us? If the former, then you are in the minority as far as I can see.
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| Quote: Adeybull "Sorry? Where has anyone said they did not recognise and appreciate the generosity of others?
Sorry? What has this to do with the allegations of the RFL giving us handouts?
Sorry? What on earth are you talking about?
Sorry? See my earlier point. We are reacting to those who come on here in a state of heightened apoplexy, insulting us and making it clear that they were looking forward to seeing us booted out. Usually in their own self-interest. Sometimes for reasons that only they seem to understand. What this has to do with the generous and appreciated help earlier from the wider RL community I fail to see? We fans are blameless, and are all too aware that our club ended up in this state through the actions and inactions of others - and in particular, the conduct of a scandalous set of major shareholders who put their internal petty squabbles ahead of everything else. But we are hardly going to lie down and take it when some people come on here attacking the fans, totally unreasonably, for things that were not in any way our fault.
Sorry? By whom? How much did HMRC receive? Glover paid off some smaller local creditors, as I recall? And how much TV money were you denied as a result? Wait till you see what happens to us on that score before you start throwing stones on THAT score.
Now, was there anything factual you wanted to have a sensible debate about?'"
A lot of sorrys there, are you apologising for you inability to grasp what others are saying? Or just your inability to accept it?
1st - there were no allegations of RFL handouts- just handouts- which were not only gratefully received but begged for. As for the statement that the bulks fans are blameless! So up yours is blameless is it? Accusing our chairman of refusing to give tickets, voting against the bulls, and conspiring to bring down the bulls without evidence is blameless? The fans didn't cause the financial problems- but some of them have behaved in a terrible way- so why then be shocked when you are treated terribly back.
I can see I'm wasting my time with the likes of you who think you can behave as you like but everyone else is the terrible one.
I'm truly torn as for the grateful bulls fans I wish all the best, but for some as you well...
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