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I suspect that whatever happens , some will still see conspiracies and some will accuse the big /bad /useless (choose your own critical adjective) Rugby League hierarchy of incompetence or worse.
It constantly amazes me that the sport I think is the best in the world seems to attract more than it's fair share of cynics. The implication that McManus is only thinking of some selfish cash centred interest says more about the accuser than the accused.

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Quote: mr loki "OR has he just got "£" signs in his eyes., (sweaty £20 notes in bradford pockets)

May be other Chairman may see things from a different point of view come end of the season?'"


I'm sure you're right. I suspect they're not at all interested in money or balancing the books and believe Bradford should be thrown out because of their financial troubles.

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McManus "I have been a proponent for some time of creating a higher quality and higher intensity Super League with less than 14 teams"


Which other RL Chairman will think they are LESS worthy than bulls to be a fit and proper club to be in SL ????

Not many putting their hands up for that I guess , May be Macmanus will make some room ?

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Quote: Starbug "So the situation is even worse than we thought , if you have 10,000 fans paying full wack and 1,2 million from SKY , and you are still losing hundreds of thousands a year , you really are foooked'"

And we have to play in a non-rectangular stadium too!. Were absolute certs to be booted out. icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Starbug "So the situation is even worse than we thought , if you have 10,000 fans paying full wack '"


Er, where did I say we had 10,000 fans paying "full wack". I disproved your ludicrous assertion that all these fans just "paid peanuts", that's all. Now you have lurched to the other end of the scale of absurdity. Well done.

Quote: Starbug "and 1,2 million from SKY , and you are still losing hundreds of thousands a year , you really are foooked'"

Are we? Wow. Thank you for pointing out that we have a financial problem. Until your post I had been convinced that the Bulls were in the rudest of rude financial health. Is that not right? Do you think there is any risk we might even go into administration?

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kcab sfrawdder Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done But he with a chuckle replied That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried. So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin On his face. If he worried he hid it. He started to sing as he tackled the thing That couldn’t be done, and he did it!:9005.jpg



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Er, where did I say we had 10,000 fans paying "full wack". I disproved your ludicrous assertion that all these fans just "paid peanuts", that's all. Now you have lurched to the other end of the scale of absurdity. Well done.

Are we? Wow. Thank you for pointing out that we have a financial problem. Until your post I had been convinced that the Bulls were in the rudest of rude financial health. Is that not right? Do you think there is any risk we might even go into administration?'"


So the point being made is that for the Bulls to operate at Odsal with a competitive team [ top 4 and winning silver regularily ] you need a sugar daddy , so in simple terms if none of the bids include that type of investement , the RFL arent going to keep you in SL , so it is irrelivant how many fair weather fans you have , it still wont work

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Quote: VanGinger "www.saintsrlfc.com/news/page/2241

its there on the Saints site...

fantastic article.. i want to shake the guy's hand! Hell, even hug him!!'"



It reads as if he's testing the water, perhaps on behalf of a few of the bigger clubs, to the prospect of a major restructuring of SL.

I dont really believe that Saints, Leeds etc would be too bothered about the demise of Braford, unless they see it as the start of a complete meltdown.

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Quote: Adeybull "If Bulls lose the SL Licence, it's no way back and likely oblivion in my view. Always has been.

The only way back would be with an owner with some real Brass. But such a bidder will not want to see the club relegated in the first place. So it seems to me we will either keep the Licence or disappear.'"



I dont share your pessimism. It would indeed be a very hard road back. But I think a Bulls team in the Championship, playing at Odsal, would still generate crowds of 4-5,000 at least for a year or two. Given a sensible rental agreement and support and time to get a new club established, I dont think the future is quite that bleak.

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According to your accounts for end of 2010 you were in a very healthy state. Where has 2 million quid gone in less than 18 months?

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Suggest you do like me and send a personal email to Eamonn McManus thanking him for his support.

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Quote: DemonUK "According to your accounts for end of 2010 you were in a very healthy state. Where has 2 million quid gone in less than 18 months?'"


If you're genuinely interested in our finances, do a bit of reading on these forums, it's all detailed here somewhere.

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Quote: Starbug "So the point being made is that for the Bulls to operate at Odsal with a competitive team [ top 4 and winning silver regularily ] you need a sugar daddy , so in simple terms if none of the bids include that type of investement , the RFL arent going to keep you in SL , so it is irrelivant how many fair weather fans you have , it still wont work'"


Nonsense again, we swept much of the board for many of the SL years, and never had a sugar daddy, of any description. Nobody would suggest that the past is bound to be repeated in the future, but it takes a spectacularly myopic person to suggest that what has already been done, in spades, is impossible to do.

You don't half come up with some garbage but I'll say this, you are a trier, albeit a stuck record one.

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Nothus most of what is around on here is rumour and hearsay. I have looked at published accounts for most SL clubs and it makes for very ugly reading. The game of rugby league is trading insolvent not just bradford. Clubs showing liabilities of 3,4 and more than 5 million quid in some instances. Dread to think what the 2011 figures will show as most are year end 2010. Giants and broncos in particular when you look at what they are worth taking into account shareholders funds etc are pushing the -£10M figure.

This game is going to implode very shortly unless someone puts the brakes on.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Nonsense again, we swept much of the board for many of the SL years, and never had a sugar daddy, of any description. Nobody would suggest that the past is bound to be repeated in the future, but it takes a spectacularly myopic person to suggest that what has already been done, in spades, is impossible to do.

You don't half come up with some garbage but I'll say this, you are a trier, albeit a stuck record one.'"


So what changed?

Was your club finances based purely on success on the field generating the required income? , if so you were doomed to fail eventually

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Quote: Starbug "So what changed?
..'"


I'm sorry. I didn't realise you had been incoming from a distant planet in a state of suspended animation these last few years, and could therefore have no knowledge of what changed. One day maybe someone will have time to go through the history with you.

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