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| Quote: redeverready "4 of them quit all together because they couldn't see any chance of getting a chance.'"
That appears to still be the case really doesn't it?
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| Quote: redeverready "4 of them quit all together because they couldn't see any chance of getting a chance.'"
That may be the case but it wasnt just the Bulls that didnt believe they were good enough. Every other SL club will have watched those 4 players, assessed them and decided not to take them on.
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| Quote: redeverready "4 of them quit all together because they couldn't see any chance of getting a chance.'"
But it's a tough world and that in itself may show they didn't have the necessary dog and determination to make it at SL level.
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| I'll give McNamara his due, he certainly knows how to try and deflect the blame elsewhere!
Just about all the players in the squad have proved to have a reasonable pedigree under other coaches or at other clubs. It's the coaching they are currently receiving, nothing else.
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| Quote: Cibaman "That may be the case but it wasnt just the Bulls that didnt believe they were good enough. Every other SL club will have watched those 4 players, assessed them and decided not to take them on.'" They quit the game altogether I know that one of those got a very good offer at Wakefield but decided against it, he;d just had enough of the game after having his spirit broken.
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| I'm still concerned about the whole "we're not playing as we're coached" I'm sure that's not the first time that's been said either.
So that leaves us a few explainations.
1. McNamara has a discipline problem. He can't enforce his ideas and tactics on the squad and it's left the squad unsure as to what they're supposed to do in given situations
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2. The team want rid of McNamara and are purposely playing poorly.
Personally I hope it's 1 and if McNamara had a more seasoned hand guiding him a la Tony Smith & Jimmy Lowes at Wire, that the team would be able to turn it around. I'd hate option 2 to be correct. Because if it is then every single player that's turned out this year has spat in the face of the Bradford fans and don't deserve to play the game let alone wear Bradford colours
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| Quote: Roofaldo "I'm still concerned about the whole "we're not playing as we're coached" I'm sure that's not the first time that's been said either.
So that leaves us a few explainations.
1. McNamara has a discipline problem. He can't enforce his ideas and tactics on the squad and it's left the squad unsure as to what they're supposed to do in given situations
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2. The team want rid of McNamara and are purposely playing poorly.
Personally I hope it's 1 and if McNamara had a more seasoned hand guiding him a la Tony Smith & Jimmy Lowes at Wire, that the team would be able to turn it around. I'd hate option 2 to be correct. Because if it is then every single player that's turned out this year has spat in the face of the Bradford fans and don't deserve to play the game let alone wear Bradford colours'" Either way it can't be let to continue.
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| Quote: redeverready "Either way it can't be let to continue.'"
No it can't. The club MUST do something now before we slip any further. But without knowing exactly what the root cause of all this is there's no way of saying what the right solution (if there is one) would be
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| Quote: Roofaldo "No it can't. The club MUST do something now before we slip any further. But without knowing exactly what the root cause of all this is there's no way of saying what the right solution (if there is one) would be'"
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So bloody frustrating, isn't it?
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| There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.
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| Quote: Cibaman "There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.'"
As i stated earlier, players like the aforementioned were consistent performers at previous clubs. It doesn't take a genius.
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| Quote: Sexual Deviant "As i stated earlier, players like the aforementioned were consistent performers at previous clubs. It doesn't take a genius.'"
That's not what the Wakey fans told us about those we signed from them...
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| Quote: Cibaman "There is option 3) The players are not good enough to consistently play the way they are coached.
Seems to me that its basically a recruitment rather than a coaching problem. If you continue to recruit inconsistent players (Solomna, Platt, Jeffries, Sykes etc) you get inconsistent performances.'"
That probably is a part of the problem.
The confidence factor and losing becoming "habit" must also be starting to take effect.
These are obvious things looking from the outside in though aren't they?
It is the deeper rooted, covered problems I (and the rest of you) want to know about.
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| Quote: kiJ "'paper thin squad lacking in confidence,quality' is because of the salary cap!
Granted there are winners and losers in all sports, but I would much rather see Bradford get beaten playing well and with quality players on the pitch rather then getting battered 22 – 58. 30-40k a year will not attract quality players to the sport!'"
So your salary capped team is getting walloped by other salary capped teams because of the salary cap?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "So your salary capped team is getting walloped by other salary capped teams because of the salary cap?
I've already pointed out early the teeny weeny logic errors in what he said.
And we have only been actually walloped twice so far - although I suspect few doubt it will be three times after Friday.
But if we are talking use of devices to...stretch the cap - like payment for image rights, use of offshoring, employee benefit trusts, the Singapore Sling - as well as the ability of some clubs players to secure massive external image rights payments - it would be interesting to see the comparison then?
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