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| Quote: mystic eddie "Too many people on here struggle to see that other people have opinions that, whilst they may not like, does not neccessarily make them false.'"
Liar!
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By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "Liar!'"
Show me the proof of this.
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| What was the name of the court usher? Who was his solicitor's clerk? What was the name of the chap [no sexism there -heh heh] who came round with the tea trolley? Why were there no eclairs to go with the tea? NO ANSWERS = You are a lying know nothing.
If you do give me all that information, I'll still post again tomorrow and ask for all of it again.
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| Both ME and LiarDweeb are almost certainly on the wind-up, though. If indeed Dweeb isn't Eddie, as I find it a bit odd that ME doesn't see Dweeb calling me a liar and fantasist every post as in any way against his personal anti- "bullying" policy, whereas me or anybody responding to his tedious invention is weirdly bullying Dweeb! Now ME isn't thick, and so he's obviously just chipping in to be his usual contrary persona. QED.
The thing is, Dweeb - whoever it really is - has gone "Black Knight" now to the extent that he has become a parody of himself. It's more absurd than anything the Python's could have written. Also the suspicion that he isn't a full shilling. Whatever, let's take ME at his word and (unless he comes up with something other than his repeat stock posts) leave the poor lad alone for now. We know he is a liar and a fantasist, and he knows he's been rumbled, so continuing the pantomime exchanges would be a bit pointless.
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| Quote: mystic eddie "...Why is it that whenever somebody has a view, or an opinion, that is against the club then people try to stop that view from being heard? '"
If you are being serious, his repeat posts at me are neither pro-nor anti- club, but his bizarre position that he has no knowledge of the litigation by OK against MM and RW, and so thought he could bluff that it didn't exist. And his bluff was comprehensively called. What is it to do with pro- or anti- club? Nothing!
Quote: mystic eddie "..From what I can see here there is no-evidence being put forward from either side, just argument and counter argument and an inability to answer pertinent questions from BOTH sides. '"
On the issue in question I have gone so far as post the name of the Court and the case number of the legal proceedings so if that to you is "no evidence" then if I am ever up for anything I pray to any gods there may be that you are on the jury
Quote: mystic eddie ".FFS I am pretty sure that this is a discussion board then why is it that when any (potentially interesting) discussion is in progress that there seems to be a need to ridicule anyone who does not speak in favour of the club? '"
I have ridiculed LiarDweeb for being ridiculous. He has heaped ridicule and derision on his own head. He is a proven liar, yet continues to accuse me of lying, albeit now to an audience of one. The situation is nothing like the one you describe.
Quote: mystic eddie "Too many people on here struggle to see that other people have opinions that, whilst they may not like, does not neccessarily make them false.'"
I wouldn't care a jot whether OK sued MM or didn't sue MM. It is not an issue for me to "like" or "dislike". I have merely informed the forum of the fact of the litigation, only to be repeatedly trolled by LiarDweeb with his idiotic rearguard - all beacause he took a punt that I had no knowledge and lost. If he had accepted his fate then he wouldn't have taken the stick that he has. It is all self-inflicted, and it is he who, like a floater in the bog, refuses to disappear round the bend however many times he is flushed. As we are in a Latin period, [ivolenti non fit injuria[/i would fit his case pretty well.
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| Quote: Bulliac "What was the name of the court usher? Who was his solicitor's clerk? What was the name of the chap [no sexism there -heh heh] who came round with the tea trolley? Why were there no eclairs to go with the tea? NO ANSWERS
If only I had asked such searching questions!!
There is no legal case being pursued by Khan against anyone in regard to OK Bulls.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "If you are being serious, his repeat posts at me are neither pro-nor anti- club, but his bizarre position that he has no knowledge of the litigation by OK against MM and RW, and so thought he could bluff that it didn't exist. And his bluff was comprehensively called. What is it to do with pro- or anti- club? Nothing!
On the issue in question I have gone so far as post the name of the Court and the case number of the legal proceedings so if that to you is "no evidence" then if I am ever up for anything I pray to any gods there may be that you are on the jury
I have ridiculed LiarDweeb for being ridiculous. He has heaped ridicule and derision on his own head. He is a proven liar, yet continues to accuse me of lying, albeit now to an audience of one. The situation is nothing like the one you describe.
I wouldn't care a jot whether OK sued MM or didn't sue MM. It is not an issue for me to "like" or "dislike". I have merely informed the forum of the fact of the litigation, only to be repeatedly trolled by LiarDweeb with his idiotic rearguard - all beacause he took a punt that I had no knowledge and lost. If he had accepted his fate then he wouldn't have taken the stick that he has. It is all self-inflicted, and it is he who, like a floater in the bog, refuses to disappear round the bend however many times he is flushed. As we are in a Latin period, [ivolenti non fit injuria[/i would fit his case pretty well.'"
You said OK Bulls had no banking facilities. I corrected you by informing you they did in fact have banking facilities with Barclays. It was merchant services they didn't have, which is why OK Bulls money was ....Come on Dweeb, how libellous was that?! - Pumpetypump... The now insolvent Lister Hotel run by serial company failure expert Ryan Whitcut. A man who has worked for & with Omar Khan for many years & who he entrusted with running the club. Perhaps you need to ask him about the huge losses he ran up with the 80's concert and the Mela at Odsal? A man who was not considered fit & proper by the RFL, but who you seem to entrust greatly with every word he utters.
A man who claims Khan put in £1m, so you believe him, despite there being absolutely no evidence. A man who claims there was no debt to HMRC when he was forced to step down. A man who claims it was Moore who refused to pay to buy OK Bulls and who claims he is being pursued for £150k as a result.
Poor Ryan, Sutcliffe aside, Omar's best friend, bag carrier, dirty job sorter & confidante for many years is all of a sudden tricked by the nasty Moore, the RFL and cast out by his beloved OK. And fools like you believe this?
Omar and his political friends in Bradford jumped ship and Ryan volunteered to steer it on to the rocks so it wouldn't look as if wouldn't look like his friend was a bad captain.
There is no legal case. You have provided no evidence. I could think of a court name and make up a random number that can't be checked out.
You can't say which solicitor, because there isn't one. You can't give a hearing date, because there isn't one. You can't name the parties to which your randomly made up case number relates, because there aren't any.
There is no £1m, there is no court case. Move on, nothing to see here.
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| Adey & FA just want to blame the RFL. They don't want to accept that the Bulls are no longer where they used to be. It's too complicated to blame Caisley, Hood, Khan, Whitcut et al, so it must be the RFL's fault.
I mean, fancy them loaning the Bulls £700k, then buying the lease to safeguard the club, the s!
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Others/combustable.gif Red Amber and Black Fantasy Rugby League Champion 2012.
By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
Mystic Eddie has been right all along! - copyright vbfg 05.01.2017:Others/combustable.gif |
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Both ME and LiarDweeb are almost certainly on the wind-up, though. If indeed Dweeb isn't Eddie, as I find it a bit odd that ME doesn't see Dweeb calling me a liar and fantasist every post as in any way against his personal anti- "bullying" policy, whereas me or anybody responding to his tedious invention is weirdly bullying Dweeb!
I certainly am NOT LeagueDweeb, and I cannot be bothered arguing all your points. It is six and half a dozen as far as I can see.
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| Quote: LeagueDweeb "Adey & FA just want to blame the RFL. They don't want to accept that the Bulls are no longer where they used to be. It's too complicated to blame Caisley, Hood, Khan, Whitcut et al, so it must be the RFL's fault.
I mean, fancy them loaning the Bulls £700k, then buying the lease to safeguard the club, the lovers!'"
I really am sick and tired of your continued dishonesty. You must have a straw man factory at your disposal.
Don't you ever DARE to presume to attribute to me things I have never said and views I do not hold. It is a pretty dishonest and generally pathetic way of conducting any kind of debate. Is it any wonder the contempt you are held in by so many on here? And that your supporters seem to be largely confined to those who use similar Dishonest tactics?
I have made my views pretty clear on the various individuals who have individually and collectively brought the club to this situation. Many of those views are not pretty. And who was it who first coined "Whitcu*t"? Had the various previous administrations conducted themselves with competence and honesty, there would have been no reason for the RFL to get involved. Unfortunately they did not, hence the continuing interventions by the RFL. Unfortunately, it seems to many people that those interventions - starting with the secret loans and the fire- sale acquisition of the Odsal lease - just turned crisis into a disaster.
I think most reasonable folk would now say that there would likely have been a very different outcome had the club been allowed to enter a much less severe insolvency process in 2012. There seems at least a serious possibility that the RFL gave assurances to Moore and co that, for reasons unclear, they subsequently backtracked upon. If the key protagonists would just answer the questions I raised earlier, we could put this speculation to bed once and for all. But, like you, there seems to be a marked reluctance to provide unequivocal yes/ no answers. So, until we DO get some answers, I will continue to say what I have been saying: that the problems were caused entirely by several iterations of the club mismanagement; but that, when history comes to be written, the actions of the RFL may well be seen to have turned crises into a total unmitigated disaster.
And no armies of your straw men, nor amount of ignoring everything that you have said which others have either disproved or shown your knowledge (such as in the insolvency process) to be lacking, can change what I have made quite clear. No matter how much you might wish to dishonestly have people think otherwise.
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By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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Don't you ever DARE to presume to attribute to me things I have never said and views I do not hold. It is a pretty dishonest and generally pathetic way of conducting any kind of debate. Is it any wonder the contempt you are held in by so many on here? And that your supporters seem to be largely confined to those who use similar Dishonest tactics?
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If this is a (not so) thinly veiled dig at me then it yet again it shows that you know considerably less than you think you do. I am in no way a "supporter" of LeagueDweeb whatsover, so, taking your OWN words, "don't you ever DARE to presume to attribute to me things I have never said and views I do not hold."
More hypocrisy. I do hope that Ian, Sam and Christian are noting this.
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| Quote: Adeybull "".........the actions of the RFL may well be seen to have turned crises into a total unmitigated disaster.......'"
That is complete rubbish.
The disaster has been caused by the Bulls consistently gambling and losing by spending more than they could afford on players and resisting the opportunity they should have taken to start again in Championship 1.
All the people at the RFL did was to try to help save a once proud Club from itself.
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By far the most sensible posts on this thread have come from mystic eddie. - copyright Ewwenorfolk 09.04.2013
Aye, and Eddie is hinting at it too. And, as we all know:
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| Quote: Wooden Stand "That is complete rubbish.
The disaster has been caused by the Bulls consistently gambling and losing by spending more than they could afford on players and resisting the opportunity they should have taken to start again in Championship 1.
All the people at the RFL did was to try to help save a once proud Club from itself.'"
I would not bother if I was you. It is a futile and unwinnable argument. Adey is full of she-ite. The only opinion that counts is his own, he accuses others of dishonesty then makes things up himself, he tries to tell people how to behave then breaks the AUP himself. This thread is full of his embarrassing attempts.
Then he acts all innocent (like the mod only put a rolly eyes because he apparently thought that "warning" was abit strong) or namechecks (like the T&A journalist who calls him up to tell each other the square root of feck all) then tries to push people off the board if he does not like them.
Then you start pointing out his failings. You will become "pond life" or "vermin" before long (although his brilliant put down of you was "Wooden Head" I believe) and then his collection of minders and sycophants come to the party.
He is a pompous clown with a particularly nasty streak when he does not get his own way. Yet promotes himself as some form of oracle that everyone respects?
Thios will go round in circles till you are all worn out then Adey can feel proud that he has rid the board of another "troll". (Look at his avatar, I am surprised it does not instantly erase his own posts!)
And, before he lies about something else, I, in no way, am a supporter of you.
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