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Perhaps Bluey does want a change according to this

www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sp ... hot-at-NRL
Perhaps Bluey does want a change according to this

www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/sp ... hot-at-NRL


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Jonesy: not at all.

You seem to be though - your touch, that is. If you need to resort to selective quotes without showing what I was commenting on. Poor show - you can do much better than that, and you know it too.

Frankly, I'm worried about you. I think you have been forced to share a paddock with so many fekkwits on Substandard for too long, and their deficiencies in basic trolling skills are rubbing off on you. Its not too late to lift yourself above their level though, but I'd not leave it too long. We'd hate to see you spiral down into the mire of mediocrity that seems to claim so many promising young journeymen trolls on Substandard. So think on!

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Quote: Ferdy "I don't remember 10 + years of Bulls success??????

Don't really know how well Mcdermott will do, not worried though..... Yet. All teams go through this period, I just hope the transition is more smooth than that the bulls went through. None of the players we have lost thus far are great losses other than Eastwood but time will tell.

I wouldn't be too smug yet though, you have a coach who wanted a job back home but wasn't good enough, and lots of mediocre players, not particulary impressed with any of them, but again time will tell. But Sibitt, raynor, Walker do not shout to me world beaters'"

There is some odd misplaced smugness on here today, Leeds' coach resigning is no cause for us to celebrate and, if our cycle of success lasted ten years plus and Leeds' only lasted 4, I'm a bit miffed that we only won the same number of championships as they did.

McDermott is a gamble and I'm not sure if I were in Leeds' position that he would be the man I went for however if it doesn't work out I doubt Hetherington will hesitate to make the necessary change.

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Quote: Asim "There is some odd misplaced smugness on here today, Leeds' coach resigning is no cause for us to celebrate and, if our cycle of success lasted ten years plus and Leeds' only lasted 4, I'm a bit miffed that we only won the same number of championships as they did.

McDermott is a gamble and I'm not sure if I were in Leeds' position that he would be the man I went for however if it doesn't work out I doubt Hetherington will hesitate to make the necessary change.'"


You need to retune your receivers mate, there isn't any smugness, just some reasonable winding up of our touchy-touchy whino brothers icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Ferdy "
None of the players we have lost thus far are great losses other than Eastwood but time will tell.

I wouldn't be too smug yet though, you have a coach who wanted a job back home but wasn't good enough, and lots of mediocre players, not particulary impressed with any of them, but again time will tell. But Sibitt, raynor, Walker do not shout to me world beaters'"


Do you not see Scott Donald as a great loss? I remember watching Leeds a couple of times when he was injured and thinking.....if that was donald it would have been a 4 pointer! Just my thoughts mind you I could be talking utter Sh!te....

And whilst Sibitt, raynor, Walker are not seen as world beaters, Sibitt is a back up (which we had none of last year) Raynor is a world ahead of Reardon on the wing and Walker is an improvement on Nero IMO.

Believe me if you would of had to watch Bradford for the past 2/3 years you would be over the moon with these signings a010.gif

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Interesting times coming up at Carnegie I feel...

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Quote: Beaver...Beaver... "Do you not see Scott Donald as a great loss?'"


In the bigger scheme of things he's no loss. However, as the team gets older we are beginning to have a worrying lack of pace in the side.

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Quote: debaser "Interesting times coming up at Carnegie I feel...'"


As I posted on the previous page.

However, don't get too carried away. When Bradford's decline under McNamara set in the Bulls were losing big name players like Peacock, Pryce and Fielden in quick succession, a certain player was taking up too much of your salary cap, and the ability to pay a full cap had diminished (at least for a season or two). As none of this has happened at Leeds (yet - although losing Eastwood was a big loss to the side), I don't see us plumbing the depths of SL any time soon.

That said, I have no expectations that Leeds will be winning any silverware next season either. It will be interesting to see how McDermott goes as coach. It certainly has many of the hallmarks of the McNamara appointment at Bradford, and I wouldn't be surprised if things don't improve, or get worse. Then again, there's also a slim chance that McDermott will develop into a more Brian Noble-esque coach (i.e. British and successful). Who knows - I suppose that's the great thing about the unpredictability of sport. It would be foolish of anyone to utterly reject him now or pronounce him as a definite future success.

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Quote: Exeter Rhino "In the bigger scheme of things he's no loss. However, as the team gets older we are beginning to have a worrying lack of pace in the side.'"


Fair point and TBH I think it was before Lee Smith came back that I was watching the games, who I think is a very able replacement (as much as I dont like the guy)

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I'm not entirely inspired by the choice of McDermott, but I think a lot of this comes down to the fact that Hetherington has brought forward the start of the rebuilding that was already marked for 2012 to a year earlier. In the long term that's probably not a bad thing. I say that because Hetherington seemed particularly upset by leeds' Wembley 'performance' - which would not have been much different had Peacock played. Follow that with being flattened at home by Wigan in the Play Offs (lacking only Peacock and McGuire of note) and I suspect Hetherington decided to act.

In terms of players, Leeds have been stuffed up a lot by the Eastwood saga. We got one year out of him, but I suspect Leeds did their utmost to persuade him to stay. In retrospect we should never have made him come over when it was clear he didn't really want to. As it is it would appear that we left our recruitment for next season way too late - hence signing Cross rather than someone else.

Given the need for change being decided upon late in the day, Leeds were never going to be in a position to recruit a top Aussie coach for next year. McDermott has been given a difficult task, and I just hope Leeds don't scrimp on the important things - rather than trying to sign another average Aussie I'd rather Hetherington looks to bring in some really good backroom staff - a young Aussie assistant with plenty of ideas and up to date thinking would be the way to go IMO.

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I'm quite sad to see Bluey leave. Hes a cracking coach, and I think he's a good bloke too. Ive always enjoyed the way he talks about Leeds and RL in general with so much passion. He's a loss to the British game and I wish him all the best in the future.

Brian Mac, I think he'll go well at Leeds, they are a settled side and he'll have a couple of years to work out how he wants things doing.

He wouldnt have been the best choice of coach for us though, I think we made the right choice.

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A lot of assumptions being made that Bluey leaving and Macs arrival equates to some mass break up of a winning formula. Hmmm. Conversely I happen to think he is an excellent appointment and one we should have made over and above Mick Potter. McDermotts development of a plethora of locally born London players was an absolute credit to him. Meanwhile back at the ranch, we sign a 32 year old player with a love of ink cartridges instead of having faith in and developing our home produced talent.

Brian will sort the Rhinos camp out big style in terms of diva strops and keeping everyone happy. He evidently already has the respect of senior players he has worked with previously and criticially it's great to see one of the games giants appoint a British coach.

Us not appointing Brian will bite us on the @rse. All things Aussie don't always equate to success.

Much as I hate to say it, well done GH eusa_clap.gif

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Quote: Gurus_Beard "ach.

Us not appointing Brian will bite us on the @rse. All things Aussie don't always equate to success.

Much as I hate to say it, well done GH
We'll see about that I reckon it will be horses for courses on this one.

GH doesn't do sentimental his mantra is money! Brian Mac will be getting more than he got at Quins but certainly less than Bluey! While he earned his spurs at Quins and is rightly acknowledged for it, the Bulls needed a more expierenced Coach to bring us back to a decent level. Brian has inherited a stable Squad and has got the respect of the senior players there. His learning curve will be a lot less at Whinos than if he came to Bradford this time round. I'm sure he will coach the Bulls sometime in the Future!

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Quote: Blotto "We'll see about that I reckon it will be horses for courses on this one.

GH doesn't do sentimental his mantra is money! Brian Mac will be getting more than he got at Quins but certainly less than Bluey! '"


Irrelevant.

Quote: Blotto "While he earned his spurs at Quins and is rightly acknowledged for it, the Bulls needed a more expierenced Coach to bring us back to a decent level'"


Yes, the 3 time Grand Final and Challenge Cup Final losing coach. Makes sense.

Quote: Blotto ". Brian has inherited a stable Squad and has got the respect of the senior players there. His learning curve will be a lot less at Whinos than if he came to Bradford this time round.'"


Why would it be?

Quote: Blotto " I'm sure he will coach the Bulls sometime in the Future!'"


He was interviewed this year and wasn't offered it. Probably because his Yorkshire accent didn't have an antipodean twang to it. Yes, I'm sure he will have genuinely fond feelings towards the club. No, really.

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Quote: Gurus_Beard "A lot of assumptions being made that Bluey leaving and Macs arrival equates to some mass break up of a winning formula. Hmmm. Conversely I happen to think he is an excellent appointment and one we should have made over and above Mick Potter. McDermotts development of a plethora of locally born London players was an absolute credit to him. Meanwhile back at the ranch, we sign a 32 year old player with a love of ink cartridges instead of having faith in and developing our home produced talent.

Brian will sort the Rhinos camp out big style in terms of diva strops and keeping everyone happy. He evidently already has the respect of senior players he has worked with previously and criticially it's great to see one of the games giants appoint a British coach.

Us not appointing Brian will bite us on the @rse. All things Aussie don't always equate to success.

Much as I hate to say it, well done GH
That's a pretty big vote of confidence.

McDermott will have to manage a transition at Leeds. That's a very tough ask for anyone. I've yet to see what he's done that makes you so confident in him.

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