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Nothing is going to plan?

That's makes the assumption there is a plan. I do wonder that sometimes.

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Like I said previously the best bits of news they have given us have never come to fruition, signed a world class NRL coach (who isnt officially here) Signed a world class 7s player (who never arrived) Signed a former fans favourite (what a mess). They actually need to give some good news that actually follows through

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Honestly never expected this guy to arrive. With our pack he would have been wasted here anyway.
But still, it's something else we can add to the ever-growing list of things making this club look completely amateurish as of late.

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It's a bit like kids at Christmas isn't it. You get them a rugby team and they rush to get the accessories such as Toovey and Phoenix. But then it works out to be a bit harder than they thought to play with so they lose interest.

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When you read on Facebook comments from Phoenix's family and his girlfriend it really doesn't reflect well on Cha-Lo.

A sorry state of affairs and it inspires me with no confidence in the club owners.

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Quote: debaser "Nothing is going to plan?

That's makes the assumption there is a plan. I do wonder that sometimes.'"


I confess to being surprised at that.

I gave up wondering about, 'a plan', a while ago and just assumed it was a figment of someone's over fevered imagination. I think it comes down to basic expectations. We know there should be some kind of a plan, so we assume, on the basis that it would be ludicrous to go into such an enterprise without one, that there just [imust[/i be a plan. The owners are happy to go along with our assumptions as they realise they won't won't have to bother explaining how their non-existent plan works or give up-dates on how it is progressing.

To be fair, maybe there once was a plan. Maybe it just got hit amidship by circumstances (aka the RFL12 point deduction) and having no brass to chuck at any problems. We've not been told either way, so I guess we'll never know.

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No drama, use the money to pay for chissy there is a direct replacement that's in the country,
then sign some forwards job done...

If this happens I will show my ar$e on the townhall steps.

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Quote: Bullseye "When you read on Facebook comments from Phoenix's family and his girlfriend it really doesn't reflect well on Cha-Lo.

A sorry state of affairs and it inspires me with no confidence in the club owners.'"

Would you mind explaining the above in more detail as i'm not on Facebook.

I understand the issue with the visa, as until a bank account was in place nothing could be done, (I assumed that the paper work was submitted when the bank account was set up) however the problem seems to be that he was a 7's player and our board agency don't recognise that as a pro sport and that's why he couldn't get a visa or having difficulty getting a visa.

Please do correct me if i'm wrong.

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update from the girlfriend for those without facebook..

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update from the girlfriend for those without facebook..

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Thing is I don't remember the lack of a bank account being mentioned as an issue when Phoenix's signing was announced.

Same with Toovey.

It emerged later.

There are three possible reasons that occur to me:

1. Cha Lo had no idea they'd need a bank account in order to apply for a visa and jumped the gun due to basic ignorance of the rules and the fact that they hadn't even applied and checked the Home Office guidance.

2. Cha-Lo were fully aware of the rules but were useless at keeping people informed.

3. Cha-Lo were aware of the rules but decided to keep people in the dark on purpose for some unknown reason.

Whatever reason it was at the very least it doesn't inspire you with confidence that they know what they're doing. Unless of course someone can suggest a perfectly reasonable explanation that I've missed?

The longer the Toovey thing drags on you wonder if in fact he does have a visa but it's done under the name of the RFL rather than the Bulls since the club were using their banking facilities for some time.

Has anyone had a receipt or anything lately that shows a transaction with the Bulls or are they still the RFL or that DB company? Do employees bank accounts show payment made to them by the Bulls or the RFL?

Meanwhile we have the Chisholm saga, the away shirts c0ck up and the failure to prepare for the Easter fixtures and the Sheffield game.

One hates to dwell on bad news but things like this shouldn't be swept under the carpet no matter how much we'd like to. I agonised about this post. am I alone in having these thoughts?

The information vacuum that comes out of Odsal doesn't help my feelings of unease. If it weren't for Mick's interviews we'd hear precisely nothing except the stuff they release that needs a proof read.

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It was confirmed by the Border Agency that the delay was due to visa regulations around his eligibility as a 7's International.


So the initial delay was down to the club not having a bank account which we apparently now have. The next thing to hold it up was the fact that he was ineligible since he was a 7s player. One wonders why an ineligible application would be subject to delay? Unless Cha-Lo appealed.

One then wonders what's holding up Toovey's visa? He should certainly be eligible. So no delay then? Again more questions than answers...

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Whichever way you look at it, it's a shambles.
It sounds like the initial delays were because of our situation as a new club etc. but then it became apparent later that he didn't even play an eligible sport?
So these guys basically signed a player that was never going to be able to get a visa anyway.

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My loyalty is really being tested now. I was hoping for a better managed ownership of the club with these guys but they are starting to make Mark Green look good! Every bit of perceived good news turns out not to be so, no communication with fans, no investment in the squad. It's the most amature looking managment I've ever seen at the club, period. I've got a very well run amature team in Manchester Rangers close by that are becoming more and more appealing to me.

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Quote: josefw "My loyalty is really being tested now. I was hoping for a better managed ownership of the club with these guys but they are starting to make Mark Green look good! Every bit of perceived good news turns out not to be so, no communication with fans, no investment in the squad. It's the most amature looking managment I've ever seen at the club, period. I've got a very well run amature team in Manchester Rangers close by that are becoming more and more appealing to me.'"



My interest in Bradford Bulls is plunging to such depths that for the first time ever, I'm contemplating just not bothering with the home game on Sunday that I already have a ticket for (via season ticket). I might just stay on the couch and watch the Magic games instead.

Sorry, but a few Leeds kids coming in on loan (regardless of clear ability) just isn't enough to balance out all the god awful crap that is going on every bloody week. I'm struggling to find the emotional investment any more, as when I do, those emotions are usually sadness and depression.

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