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Quote: Maccbull_BigBullyBooaza "Last season that would have been 14000. Wouldn't have looked any fuller but would have been 14000'"


I was thinking that too!

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I don't think the head count can be too accurate, when having our passes scanned as we arrived into the car park behind the Coral stand the hand held scanners were not working and we were just waved through. This also happened for the Salford game. It is also possible to walk through that entrance and round to the main stand I think, so this could account for a few missing numbers but not too many.

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The point has been made many times that it wasn't a head count last year, and it isn't this year. It is the number of people who buy tickets for the game so 7000 (or whatever it now is) plus the number who pay at the gate.

Looked about right to me, and of course if season tickets count, attend or not, then scanners not working would be irrelevant.

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Didn't I see someone say there were 25 full coaches turn up from Wigan?

While I thought their following was excellent, that seemed a little on the exaggeration side.

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25 coaches is only at max 1200 people though. They're coaches, not trains.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "25 coaches is only at max 1200 people though. They're coaches, not trains.'"


True, but a lot of people drive to games rather than take coaches. I wouldn't expect near to that many coming on coach to a regular away game.

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We're not a regular away game. We're Bradford.

It was a good enough Wigan turnout, I'd estimate in all they probably had around 2,000 in the ground, which is not as good as some occasions in the past, but a very creditable turnout nevertheless, and better than most.

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February 20th 2004, Bulls 34 Wigan 6 att 17,267
I wonder what the missing 7,368 were doing yesterday.
The fixture has lost almost half its support (42.7%) in nine years- massive drop in any sport. eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Teddy Melling "February 20th 2004, Bulls 34 Wigan 6 att 17,267
I wonder what the missing 7,368 were doing yesterday.
The fixture has lost almost half its support (42.7%) in nine years- massive drop in any sport.


Washing their hair ?

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Quote: Teddy Melling "February 20th 2004, Bulls 34 Wigan 6 att 17,267
The fixture has lost almost half its support (42.7%) in nine years- massive drop in any sport.
What a stupid remark. The fixture hasn't "lost" ANY of its support "in nine years". Every time we play Wigan, or anyone, the attendance is different, or hadn't you noticed? If, (for example) we met Wigan at home in the playoffs on a warm autumn night we could easily match that sort of attendance, so what - would we then have "found" some people?

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I though Wigan's away support was pretty good yesterday considering the football team was at Wembley the day before. As when City were down there, I reckon a fair few might have made a weekend of it or perhaps weren't back yet.

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Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "What a stupid remark. The fixture hasn't "lost" ANY of its support "in nine years". Every time we play Wigan, or anyone, the attendance is different, or hadn't you noticed? If, (for example) we met Wigan at home in the playoffs on a warm autumn night we could easily match that sort of attendance, so what - would we then have "found" some people?

eusa_naughty.gif Now listen here- and point those big ears in this direction. You’ll note my lack of activity on here, and that I rarely post on this- or any other forum for that matter. The reason being, I can’t be d having my patience tested and wasting valuable time replying to idiots like you. Forum s are normally restricted to the soccer variety, though unfortunately, an occasional plonker infiltrates the higher intelligence usually found on rugby forum. You have shown yourself to be one of those rude, billy big-time keyboard warriors, who just love to display their balls on places like this. icon_moon.gif

If my statement was stupid- yours surpasses it, and let me tell you why. In my opinion the Bulls dynasty and eventual fall of empire began on September 21st 2007, when they lost 30-31 to Wigan in an elimination play-off game. Bulls had been 30-6 ahead into the second half, before capitulating to a Wigan comeback of immense proportions. I was at the game, and remember feeling how the end of an era was almost nigh, and that it would be a very long time before the Bulls again reigned supreme.

It was September, and as I don’t recall it being cold, wet or windy, I assume it was a pleasant evening. This play-off game attracted just 9,055, and your suggestion that any similar game v Wigan would attract a much larger crowd is laughable. In fact, as a RL fan, you should know that all end-of-season play-off games attract pathetic attendances- except for the final- OR HADN’T YOU NOTICED? eusa_clap.gif

The attendance on Sunday was the lowest for a Bulls game v Wigan in the Super League era- from 1996/7 to 2007. There are many reasons for this, including the economy, cost and weather, though I suggest the Bulls recent fall from grace- both on and off the field, is the prime cause.

However, rugby and soccer attendances are generally in decline, but with the sport in disarray and the product poor- imo, rugby league cannot exist for much longer in its present form.

And finally, prior to goin’ bust the first time round in 1963, I walked down to Odsal and through the turnstiles- at the age of seven- on my own. So have some effin’ respect for someone who’s watched more games than most have had hot dinners, and seen big crowds at Odsal, most on here could only dream of. icon_eek.gif

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Quote: Teddy Melling "at your remark, not at you personally - makes me an "idiot". A "forum dicckhead". "Plonker". A "billy bigtime keyboard warrior". I'm "displaying my balls".

Quote: Teddy Melling " In my opinion the Bulls dynasty and eventual fall of empire began on September 21st 2007, ...I don’t recall it being cold, wet or windy, I assume it was a pleasant evening. This play-off game attracted just 9,055, and your suggestion that any similar game v Wigan would attract a much larger crowd is laughable.'"

Wrong again. I said that it "could", not "would". Which of course it could.

Let me remind you what you said, as you've either forgotten, or lost it in the red mist. You wroteThe fixture has lost almost half its support (42.7%) in nine years'"

That is, from 2004 to 2013. Yet in your pant-wetting indignance, you yourself point out that our attendance on Sunday was actually BETTER than 2007 (which fixture you say was BEFORE the Bulls downfall in your eyes began!! How's that, then?
If I use your figure, then I could equally stupidly say the fixture "has gained almost 10% support in 5 years".
In fact, the fixture also attracted crowds of
Round 21 - 19/7/2009 att. 9,487
Round 2 - 5/3/2010 att. 9,294
In this context, Sunday's gate was actually UP, wasn't it?
In any case, we happened to play Wigan TWICE at home in your "benchmark year" of 2004 and the second gate on 13/8/2004 was "only" 12,610 so your starting point is just arbitrary nonsense. You could have said that the fixture lost almost 28% of its support in six months. But you obviously overlooked the second fixture.
Quote: Teddy Melling "In fact, as a RL fan, you should know that all end-of-season play-off games attract pathetic attendances- except for the final- OR HADN’T YOU NOTICED? I have not shown you ANY disrespect, in sharp contrast to your frankly puerile name-calling. I said your REMARK was stupid, not you; which it clearly was, and now you have made a bigger fool of yourself, as well as doubtless earning a yellow card for your needless personal abuse. Well done.

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Quote: Teddy Melling "eusa_naughty.gif Now listen here- and point those big ears in this direction. You’ll note my lack of activity on here, and that I rarely post on this- or any other forum for that matter. The reason being, I can’t be d having my patience tested and wasting valuable time replying to idiots like you. Forum s are normally restricted to the soccer variety, though unfortunately, an occasional plonker infiltrates the higher intelligence usually found on rugby forum. You have shown yourself to be one of those rude, billy big-time keyboard warriors, who just love to display their balls on places like this. eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif eusa_clap.gif Well said that man.

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I think this has run it's course. Can't we have a civil debate without abusing each other?

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