Good old Brian Mc. Good news for us, good for Leeds, good for the players involved, not too fussed either way about the effect on fev - that's between Leeds and fev, nothing to do with us.

Keyes will still get his chance no doubt.

...compared to him Heisenberg is certainly the greatest astro turphician ever!

Are you sure?

The coaching is not just one man is it? It is the head coach and the relevant backroom staff as well is it not? Some coaching teams work in certain situations and not others. Could Toovey have moved Huddersfield from a bottom 4 SL side in 2003 to a top 4 SL side in 2007 given the lack of resources at Huddersfield at the time I don't know, but JS did. Could JS with all the money available have kept Manley in the top 4 during 2013/4 in the NRL I don't know. I guess we never will.

If Fev win more games this year than the Bulls does that make JS a better coach than Toovey? In my opinion not since the stating point and resources are different. However at the same time to say that Toovey will be better for Lilley just because he coached at Manly is just as daft, but each to their own.

I get the point that Toovey was a half back, a state of origin player and international, however that doesn't mean that he can pass on that knowledge. Some of the best teachers can't do and some of the best doers can't teach or in the past, based on what what I have read on the Bull's forum, coach in the case of Lowe & McNammara. This is not to say Toovey will not be the best coach ever for any player, he may well be and time will tell.


As an aside it seems I have had more bites on this thread than I have ever had on any of my posts on the RL forums without even intending to do so, so will try to answer some of them. BTW for what it's worth you can take the pee out of me all you want and I'm sure some will.

I don't know what Sharpe is like as a RL team coach but I seem to recall he left under a bit of a cloud at the RFL. Wasn't very highly thought of by his staff there from what I recall (to put it diplomatically).

With Lilley playing for Leeds tonight, does that mean he can't play Sunday for us?

They said his loan deal is now over

Watching the Leeds cas game, lilley needs to leave that losing culture at Leeds and get back in with our winning culture

Seriously though it was only a matter of time, Leeds are shocking tonight, lilley has just been trying to tackle an orange tide, not sure he's had ball in hand attacking yet.

They way they are playing tonight, Leeds will recall them all. They are rotten.

So a few days after announcing the loan is extended, he is recalled. How does that work?

The loans all have a 24 hour notice recall clause in them.

Thats no good for us. Can we recall the other way too?

lol no.
I would imagine Leeds would send him back our way if he wasn't likely to make their 17 next week, but I don't know what's wrong with Burrow and someone on the Leeds board seems to think McGuire made contact with the ref tonight so he could get a ban if true.

Anyway, how's about we try our own players for a change? Keyes is a young, British half that we should be building a side around, not leaving him on the sidelines and playing loan players instead.