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| We got the 2 points but we were second best for the first half and for a good part of the second. We were lucky at times their cock up for the Addy try and that 40-20 not being awarded were key moments.
Was it me or was that ref bloody awful. PTBs took forever and teams offside by miles.
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| Credit where credits due, Dewsbury were very good. In fact they'll feel gutted to go home with nothing.
That said, Addy and Mullaney didn't work as a pairing, although individually they actually both played well (if that makes sense). Looks like we missed Gaskells organisation more than I expected. Presumably Seijka in next week to get the team around the park better.
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| Best side probably lost today and Dewsbury will definitely feel like it was two points lost. They kicked better, made good yardage and were generally more enthusiastic for the win.
We never really seemed to find much cohesion with Mullaney and Addy at halfback. Obviously going into any game without either 1st choice halves isn't ideal but I think it highlighted just how exposed we could be if we were unlucky to lose both halfbacks again later in the season. We're probably asking a bit of Siejka to just slot back in given the time out with injury but you'd hope we'd have enough class in our side to get the result at Workington.
If Gaskell is going to be missing for another few weeks then we'll need somebody to step up and lead the side from 6/7 because I don't think either Addy or Mullaney are the answer particularly against better teams like Featherstone that are coming up. I thought with a few exceptions our kicking game was pretty pants and Dewsbury were much more effective at gaining the territorial advantage.
Pleasing to get the result though and I thought we should some good character to come back from behind.
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| Quote: Bullseye "
Was it me or was that ref bloody awful. PTBs took forever and teams offside by miles.'"
I can't remember seeing a team offside at the PTB so consistently as Dewsbury today. The ref was terrible and it was laughable when he penalised US for offside right at the end.
It was a big concern that we had no creativity without Gaskell, worrying rumours on Facebook that he has a broken jaw. Please God no. The thing that stood out for me in such a tight game was our poor in play kicking game. How many last tackle kicks of ours went dead for a 20m tap? Addy did this almost every time, Mullaney was slightly better but their kicking game beat us all ends up. This needs some serious practice.
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| One hooker, no halves and no bench option and guess what? We have a squad of 31 and 6 weeks before the middle 8's we need a total brainfart by Dewsbury's full back to save us at home.
Has Gaskell broke his jaw or is he back next week to partner Siejka after recovering from a couple of knocks? This is silly.
What have Fleming and Tahroui done wrong btw that we needed to sign Crossley whilst having played most of the season without a scrum half?
I'm perfectly aware that injuries happen and can be disruptive but I thought the situation on the pitch reflects a little bit of muddle off it. Maybe this is too negative as I thought with Gaskell playing we were progressing but today was dire.
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| I remember PLENTY of these sort of games. We would catch Wigan, or Saints, or whoever on an off day - but somehow, you knew - you just KNEW - that they would always win it. This time we have been on the right side of that feeling - more than once.
Oh and yes, the ref was frankly hopeless, but it wasn't just him that blatantly ignored forwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard passes. The touchies did too. I don't want to go on as I'm sure the poor lad did his best but if I was him and watched the video I'd be tempted to pack it in.
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| That was hard to watch today. I had a really bad feeling going into it… so kind of relieved we managed to come away with the points. Adam Henry seems to be back to his ball-dropping ways and I was surprised to see him back on the pitch for the second half. Dewsbury were offside almost as much as Doncaster last week. Ref as bad as last week, too. If this is how we play without Gaskell, let's hope it's not a broken jaw and we won't be without him for too long. The good thing is, I kind of had faith that we would pull a win out of the bag as it went down to the wire. We have some tenacity when the chips are down.
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| I don't remember seeing Henry drop ball, maybe from the long break Williams made but he was being tackled as ball was passed to him!
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| Quote: Bets'y Bulls "I don't remember seeing Henry drop ball, maybe from the long break Williams made but he was being tackled as ball was passed to him!'"
Wasn't so much a case of Henry dropping ball as him throwing passes that just weren't on.
Suspect club will make an announcement about Gaskell in next few days that ties in with sammut returning. Seems awfully convenient wakey finally releasing him just after our half gets injured.
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| We are all relieved to win this game but I am starting to feel a bit concerned that we are still "scraping" past teams. We are consistently poor in one of the halves.
We only have 6 weeks (7 games) to get it right and get up to SL standard. We have a big squad but only seem to be using about 20 of them regularly which makes me think Jimmy won't be throwing many of them in for that first play off game. Yes there are a few that will come back in but not that many so what we are seeing now other than the two halves today is what we may be going with against the SL teams. You can add Seijka and Gaskil to today's team, move Blythe and Shaw to one wing and that looks like a possible play off team. Other players in the squad are fit but not getting a game so why would they all of a sudden get picked. It is starting to get close to the point when we should be starting to peak but we look to be miles off that. My hope is that Jimmy is planning pick a play off team that all have SL experience and they will all lift their game from memory and start to play to SL standard. Fingers crossed as a team that thinks Dewsbury at home is a banana skin has not much chance of beating SL teams. We should be dominating championship teams by now and definitely in the next 7 games or we are in trouble.
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| Of the 7 matches left 4 are against clubs with top 4 aspirations......just like Dewsbury have. Rams have just had a sticky patch but I still expected them to be up for this match and sure enough they were. I expect several more similar tests as clubs jockey for position. Better a test like today than the blowout of last week.
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| We consistently find that Championship refs. do not seem to protect players like they should>
The fact that a perpertrator of a serious offence is allowed to carry on playing and wont have a match review decision judged for a couple of weeks seem unfair when Gaskell who was deliberatedly elbowed by the Donny prop. is out for this week and he is still playing?
Today Sidlow was the subject of a high tackle, that left him struggling for a while on his knees. No penalty and even when the ref stopped the game, no touch judge intervention however the same touch judge had managed to spot a Forward pass, probably the only one!
Makes you wonder doesn't it!
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| Quote: woolly07 "We are all relieved to win this game but I am starting to feel a bit concerned that we are still "scraping" past teams. We are consistently poor in one of the halves.
We only have 6 weeks (7 games) to get it right and get up to SL standard. We have a big squad but only seem to be using about 20 of them regularly which makes me think Jimmy won't be throwing many of them in for that first play off game. Yes there are a few that will come back in but not that many so what we are seeing now other than the two halves today is what we may be going with against the SL teams. You can add Seijka and Gaskil to today's team, move Blythe and Shaw to one wing and that looks like a possible play off team. Other players in the squad are fit but not getting a game so why would they all of a sudden get picked. It is starting to get close to the point when we should be starting to peak but we look to be miles off that. My hope is that Jimmy is planning pick a play off team that all have SL experience and they will all lift their game from memory and start to play to SL standard. Fingers crossed as a team that thinks Dewsbury at home is a banana skin has not much chance of beating SL teams. We should be dominating championship teams by now and definitely in the next 7 games or we are in trouble.'"
I think you're being a bit naive if you think we should be dominating teams every week. I think this is first game in a while we have "scraped" passed a team. The conditions were a leveler and Dewsbury are a good team. We didn't play great and were lucky to win. But lets not press the panic button. We've only lost against Leigh and KR this season. It wasn't a good performance, it happens.
We were missing Gaskell who is essential to us going up. But the teams that will be in the middle 8's all have key men who are essential to their teams success. Kevin Brown for Widnes, Terry Campese for KR, Tim Smith for Wakefield. Take them out and all of them don't look as good a side.
I do agree about rotation and i think some changes should be made for next week. But if we get get Mullaney and Gaskell playing together over next few games, we will look a lot more dangerous. Those two are out most creative players.
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| Quote: Bull Mania "I think you're being a bit naive if you think we should be dominating teams every week. I think this is first game in a while we have "scraped" passed a team. The conditions were a leveler and Dewsbury are a good team. We didn't play great and were lucky to win. But lets not press the panic button. We've only lost against Leigh and KR this season. It wasn't a good performance, it happens.
We were missing Gaskell who is essential to us going up. But the teams that will be in the middle 8's all have key men who are essential to their teams success. Kevin Brown for Widnes, Terry Campese for KR, Tim Smith for Wakefield. Take them out and all of them don't look as good a side.
I do agree about rotation and i think some changes should be made for next week. But if we get get Mullaney and Gaskell playing together over next few games, we will look a lot more dangerous. Those two are out most creative players.'"
As I've said before, I'm not sure rotation for the sake of it is a good idea. Yes, we have players in the squad who've not made a first team appearance yet. But those same players play in positions where we either have a strong depth of players or where the players in those positions are currently in good form. Any player who wants to break into the Bradford team will need to show that he deserves to be there and not just stand around expecting to get a place in the 17. That's either by performing well if sent out on loan/dual-reg or by putting in a harder shift in training that the other players in his position.
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| Jimmy knows how to win. Some may think it's a bit rich for fans of a perennially-drubbed club that has suddenly gone to winning 15 or whatever on the bounce to be casting aspersions and doom-mongering. We wouldn't get any extra benefit from murdering Dewsbury today, we just had to win- again - and we won - again. All this "we would get flogged by a SL team if we play like that" is just nonsense. You play the team on the day, and I have seen worse performances from SL teams on Sky this season than Dewsbury.
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