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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Wait a minute, so at last the penny has dropped, you now accept what I have always said is the case - yet mystifyingly try to pretend the opposite!
Part of my whole POINT is that the club was sanctioned at a time when (presumably) the RFL assumed BB2014 were fully committed, they prematurely announced the sanctions intended against BB2014, but BB2014 dropped out. My consistent argument is that at that moment, the RFL needed to suspend any sanction, wait until new owner was found, consider their plans etc., and then decide on the sanctions. Instead we have the absurdity of the present situation.
And then you go an spoil it all. BBNL were NOT penalised. The RFL purported to sanction BB2014. Please just think about that for a second It really isn't hard. If sanctions against BBNL have ever been reported or announced - then where?*
There is another question arising from that, though. Rather oddly, absolutely no announcement has been made about sanctions against BBNL. Indirectly, the RFL have commented through the press that the 2 year half-money distribution sanction will remain - but do not explain how, or how much has been paid/withheld. So, WHAT is the financial sanction on BBNL for the club they bought having had an insolvency event? If it was fair and just that last time round it was a year's Sky money, then why is that not happening again?
The RFL did mention that the points deduction "stands" - without explaining how, or why, or whom it is a sanction again. So has BBNL been sanctioned 6 points or not? Of course, I have also answered that question - the RFL realised their points deduction announcement against BB2014 was premature, but have fudged the matter to try not to loook any more foolish.
Incidentally, given we got an unprecedented whupping for a year's funding last time round, why have we (seemingly) got Nil this time round?
So as you can hopefully now appreciate, neither of the above are correct statements.
But on the question of the distribution, it seems that the RFL are both claiming every penny of distribution back from OKB and from OK personally - yet continuing to shortchange BBNL. Nice work.
* [size=85I accept it is possible the RFL have privately signed a sanctions agreement with BBNL - like they did with OKB - but both parties are keeping it secret.[/size'"
That's a very long-winded way of showing you don't understand this.
In fact, it is very simple. Sporting sanctions such as a points deduction are applied to THE CLUB. Nothing to do with who owns the Club.
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"That's a very long-winded way of showing you don't understand this.
In fact, it is very simple. Sporting sanctions such as a points deduction are applied to THE CLUB. Nothing to do with who owns the Club.'"
That is a short way of showing that you have absolutely not the first clue what the hell you're talking about.
Oh and although you are one of the worst trolls, in this case I do believe you aren't actually bright enough to understand the point. So best leave the discussion to the grown-ups.
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Well given they're implementing that very rule going forward, I wouldn't hold out too much hope'"
Implementing what rule?
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| Quote Wooden Stand="Wooden Stand"That's a very long-winded way of showing you don't understand this.
In fact, it is very simple. Sporting sanctions such as a points deduction are applied to THE CLUB. Nothing to do with who owns the Club.'"
You are wrong.
HTH
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Implementing what rule?'"
Unless I misunderstood the rule change, but from next year half funding with the rest distributed among the other clubs will be part of the penalty for admin
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Unless I misunderstood the rule change, but from next year half funding with the rest distributed among the other clubs will be part of the penalty for admin'"
The RFL/SLE are actually considering formalising the (impromptu/made-up) penalty which we were hit with first time around?
The one where if a club has financial difficulties and goes into administration, the penalty will be to take more money from them going forwards....
Are they mad? 
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| Quote roofaldo2="roofaldo2"Unless I misunderstood the rule change, but from next year half funding with the rest distributed among the other clubs will be part of the penalty for admin'"
The other part of the penalty they need to formalise then is the stepwise loss of props.
1st admin - lose one prop
2nd admin - lose two props etc
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| I think I previously made an analogy using references to the RFL and chickens with their heads chopped off running around farmyards...
I know the Bulls have been pretty badly run, over quite a few years, but when it comes to being totally stupid and making inappropriate decisions the RFL make our previous managements look paragons of virtue.
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"The other part of the penalty they need to formalise then is the stepwise loss of props.
1st admin - lose one prop
2nd admin - lose two props etc'"
Yeah, I absolutely disagree with all this stuff,......... though I'd turn a blind eye if it were Wakefield... 
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"The RFL/SLE are actually considering formalising the (impromptu/made-up) penalty which we were hit with first time around?
The one where if a club has financial difficulties and goes into administration, the penalty will be to take more money from them going forwards....
Are they mad?
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if it is the case it is a dumb decision in a litany of dumb decisions the RFL are making of the past year or so.
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| Of course, if they do make such a rule change, it doesn't matter, as it will be purely academic since as Wooden Head and others have helpfully pointed out (so it must be true) sanctions are against "the Club", not the new owners.
This "Club", Wooden Top and his fellow woodenheads insist exists somehow independently and outside the old owners and new owners. But it doesn't have a bank account, any [ilegal [/iexistence nor any right to a share of the distribution (which is of course distributed amongst Members, those being the companies which own the businesses and own the Golden Share).
Losing half of nil shouldn't be a problem for most, I shouldn't think.
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| Quote Highlander="Highlander"The RFL/SLE are actually considering formalising the (impromptu/made-up) penalty which we were hit with first time around?
The one where if a club has financial difficulties and goes into administration, the penalty will be to take more money from them going forwards....
Are they mad?
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Without wishing to light any blue colured touch paper, isnt taking the moral high ground with the RFL over financial common sense a bit rich, taking into account at any time in the past the clubs owners (which ever ones) could have said "hang on aminute! this could all go badly wrong, lets rein in our spending, after all we might not be able to afford all this and then where will we be?"
Having a wild uncontrolable horse (of for this metaphor) bull foaming at the mouth intent on getting out of its stable (i know bulls don't live in them, but we're back to the horse bit again, sorry!!) is one thing, but blaming the stable lad (horse again i know) for being trampled under the stable door once its bolted is a tad unfair...i think!
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