My thought process behind not going was that I needed to clean under my finger nails, which I then didn't do.

It is an inescapable fact that those who choose to stay away due to poor form [ialways[/i miss the best match of the lot -that first victory which inevitably turns it all around.

Just hoping we have turned it round, of course, and it's not just another, soon to be forgotten, blip on our wayward trajectory to the end of the season..

RFL Operational Rules: Definitions k (Club) al (Member) ar (Person subject to the Operational Rules
A1 Membership and Membership Obligations
D1 Offences Penalties and Enquiries D1.11 onwards and in particular
D1:25 The Operational Rules Tribunal and Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal shall have the power to order any Person subject to the Operational Rules to pay compensation and/or shall have power to reprimand, fine and/or suspend or expel from participation in the Game any Person Subject to the Operational Rules or any Representative or his/her Deputy or Member if found guilty of misconduct or aiding or abetting another so to do. In addition in the case of Misconduct which impinges on the integrity of the competition the Operational Rules Tribunal shall have the right to deduct competition points. The Operational Rules Tribunal and Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal shall be free to disregard any scales of mandatory fines published by the Board as guidance. Suspensions imposed by the Operational Rules Tribunal and Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal shall take effect from midnight on the day of the hearing unless the Operational Rules Tribunal or Operational Rules Appeals Tribunal orders to the contrary.

and finally, bye-laws 4.

[url=http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/sport/sportbulls/11178165.Former_Bulls_boss_pursued_for___905_000_by_Rugby_Football_League/latest nonsence[/url

Has anybody read this article today? Do you understand wtf is going on with these claims and if so could you explain more clearly the implications than the t&a have managed?

If my reading is correct;

Omar has agreed to pay back the council debt of 200k.
The RFL want Omar to pay back every penny the club received from sky/central funding from August 2012 to February 28 2014, a figure of £905k. (the majority of which is presumeably the normal (albeit halved) sky tv money.
Omar only disagrees on the amount, not that he's personally liable.
Omar has a claim aginast something/somebody/himself?? for £998k
The current club under Marc Green owe nothing and have no liabilities.


I have literally no idea what to make of it.

Why is OK personally liable for repayment of Sky money? I don't get that.

The administrator thinks that OK Bulls went bust owing Omar about £400k. Omar thinks that he's actually owed £1.3m? the £400k + the £900k that the article is going on about.

But the carcass of ok bulls was bought by mark green for £200k, which paid the administrator then himself. Leaving £0 for the other creditors, including Omar.

The £900k Omar got from the RFL central funds will have gone straight to wages for players. So I also am unclear on why the RFL want it back, as it hasn't been lost to the game or anything.

The RFL were always very keen to stress that over the last 2years their main concern was paying the players & competition integrity. Omar paid the players & built up big debts as well.

Of course, if the RFL got any of this money, they would immediately use it to pay off the creditors

who lost out again when the RFL rubber stamped Omar as the correct man to take the club forwards last year.....

Let me get this right…

OK agreed/was forced to give up a years sky money split over 2 seasons
OK agreed/forced to sign a deal where if the Bulls were insolvent in 2013/14 season he would repay all central funding received

So Bulls actually look like losing 1.5 years funding approx.?? WTF RFL/OK?
Surely if the Bulls were insolvent (as occurred) there wasn’t enough money, not a surplus to pay the RFL back……

Am I reading this right?

Based on the administrator's report OK personally guaranteed:

1) The loan of £200k from the council
2) He also guaranteed to repay the Sky Money we did get in the event of us going tits up again.

I can understand the first one, less so the second but who knows what went on behind closed doors at the time of the first administration.

It would appear that OK - as the owner - personally guaranteed to repay the Sky Money we did get if we went bust against - as distinct from the Bulls having to repay it. Even if he had had a few £m spare I would never have signed a deal like that - still act in haste - repent at leisure.

Well, it all sounds like force majeure to me...






"[iForce majeure is generally intended to include risks beyond the reasonable control of a party, incurred not as a product or result of the negligence or malfeasance of a party, which have a materially adverse effect on the ability of such party to perform its obligations"[/i


OK's financial and negotiating skills were clearly risks beyond resonable control of any other party linked to Bulls since.

Indeed - whatever OK's faults, he is surely not so stupid as to enter into that agreement on the facts presented. OK is not stupid that is for sure.. There must be further details that are not public yet as only an idiot would have entered into that deal

Anyone can quote random extracts from the rules. However your extract is as relevant to the point as any Enid Blyton book. The point isn't that they don't have powers to deduct points etc., nor that no appeals procedure exists. Nobody is arguing that.