I asked the question as soon as the "provisional" acceptance of the bid was publicised, how the hell you can an employee be "provisionally" TUPE's? I don't know the answer to that but suspect the answer lies in whatever documentation was given to the employees at the time of the TUPE.

It would on the face of it seem odd to me if I can be TUPED across and work for and be paid by my new employer, only to be told a few weeks later that after all I am still an employee of my old, bust employer.

If I was called Carvell, and legal action had been initiated by BB2014 as a result of my moving to Hull, I would be intrigued to know on what that was based if in fact my employment with BB2014 had never been confirmed, and was now being eschewed? The end result would be that Carvell never was an employee of BB2014 but from what we know, (which isn't all that much) that doesn't sound like a sensible conclusion.

If then the players (to take one category of employee) are all now employees of BB2014 - what is it going to do with them? If they are not employees of BB2014 then why and how does it hold their registrations?

Who said BB2014 is for sale?

It's an interesting point (or would be, if we weren't all so royally and abysmally fekked off): is there a competition here?

Would a buyer be more interested in acquiring BB 2014 - which has all the staff including players, and presumably not much debt - as a going concern?

Or if they buy the business of OKB from the administrator - how the hell does that include the player contracts when we all know (we thought) that they were all TUPE'd out of OKB?

If Lamb does a deal to buy BB2014 from MM then as BB2014 he presumably holds the player registrations?

So OK Bulls went in to admin and staff transferred to Bulls 2014. The 6 points is punishment for OK Bulls entering admin. What happens now if Lamb wants to create his own company? Does Bulls 2014 go in to admin and we get an additional 6 points deducted?!

do you still want some cash for kopczak?

Interesting Cummins says that the vultures are circling for players, what will RFL do if players leave and they won't let us sign anyone so can't raise a team?

The vultures have been divvying up our TV money for the past year so I'm not surprised.

The sensible thing to do would be to place a moratorium on selling players until a buyer is found. If one isn't found within a certain timescale then they can all be made free agents.

I suspect other clubs will be able to pick off our players quite easily as the season goes on - IF we get another buyer.

Can't the Bulls do a press release telling other clubs that the first team are ring fenced. That will surely work?

Everything I hear suggests all this came totally out of the blue to everyone at the club, including the then-board. Make of that what you will.

I really really would like to know what seemed to change so dramatically from last Thursday till yesterday? Because I just don't see what CAN have changed so dramatically? Especially since the administrator - who has to have no axe to grind one way or the other - was clearly satisfied that the Moore/Calvert/Watt offer was the best for the creditors.

Nothing I ever heard was at variance with what Moore said about the support and guidance from the RFL over several months[i"...I was also extremely surprised by the current position of the RFL, given the fact that they have guided us and advised us on the majority of decisions made over the past five to six months. We were more than grateful of their assistance, as they have been integral in getting us to this stage"[/i. If they had indeed been doing what Moore said - they have not denied it, I see, just thrown grenades back in response to HIS grenades - how on earth could they suddenly decide that the guys were no good after all? How could this be?

Seem to me either one party was consistently misleading the other, one (or both) was dumb thick and stupid, or something happened or intervened to make one party change its position very substantially. I am perplexed.

Ample material for conspiracy theorists, for sure. But, in the meantime, the staff at the club - who have worked their nuts off during terribly trying and worrying times for them - have been royally shafted. Again. Something we might all want to reflect on when playing hell about how WE feel?

I don't think anybody knows who is responsible to put up the fence at present.

"As you sow, so shall you reap" springs to mind.

Why not face facts and take your punishment like adults?

Alternatively pay your debts in full and start afresh.

You don't have a God-given right to a place in Superleague.

Abide by the Rules, pay your debts as and when they fall due and respect your supporters.

You've milked support from the surrounding clubs for long-enough.

You can fool some of the people for all of the time but not all of the people for all of the time. Hasn't Robbie Paul got any ideas?

Anyone else agree that situations like this bring out some of the very worst scumbags that humanity has the misfortune to be saddled with?

You appear to be mistaking this forum for the postal address at Odsal or the administrator (or any of the people who have been running the club)


...and for your information I do respect my supporters.

The Administrator isn't necessarily concerned about Newco, he is concerned about value for Oldco creditors (or even just paying his fees).

The RFL are looking at the future viability of Newco - the Administrators and RFL are not assessing the deals in the same way and a deal acceptable to an Administrator may be completely unacceptable to the RFL.

Stop over reacting and get a grip. You're going through the mill and doing it very tough, but there will always be a Bradford team to support. Maybe not in SL, who knows, but there will always be a team for the supporters to get behind. Worse things happen at sea etc. I'm sure once the decks are cleared the bulls will prosper again

Could we start a seperate thread just for dip s like this to spout their drivvel at each other? It could be called "gloat about others misfurtunes". Then maybe we can leave this thread for people who actually have constructive things to say.

If I hear the words "reap" or "sow" one more time...