That 0-20 vs Fev was probably the most disappointing match I've ever been to.

That said he had the side playing better rugby than his predecessor and seemed to have an idea about how to recruit. Like Toovey there were off field distractions and he never got the chance to show what he could do with his own side. I think Smith came over well, he conducted himself impeccably during Admin 3. I think that's why he's well thought of.

Based purely on results though we blew it badly when he had the big chance to show he was up to the job.

What's your thoughts on Toovey Red?

You've written my post for me. This is where I'm at too.

I'm not sure that's a very objective view of Toovey's time as coach at Manly.

I agree we need a coach that can get players to play above themselves. Any suggestions? Obvs Kear is now signed up at Wakey.

What about Jon Sharpe. He's experienced at the level below SL. Did a brilliant job at Fev

We need as much continuity/consistency as we can muster. Get Toovs to stay for next year then review where we are after a full preseason and season...

Well, I'll accept it's not a full blow by blow account of every minute he spent there, (as I'd never heard of him before he came over it was all blagged from the internet, tbh

) but as a thinned down precis, covering the bare essentials, I think it sums up the differences between his job at Manly and his current one here at the Bulls and, in that sense, I feel it is certainly objective, if nothing else.

Now he [imay[/i turn out to be the best coach we've ever had, [iand[/i be chosen for our 'team of the 21st century', and no-one would be more pleased than me if this turned out to be the case, but, and this is the whole point of my original post, I just don't see anything that jumps out from his previous coaching experience to suggest he is the man for our particular set of circumstances.

I hope he's given the owners something more solid about his intentions though, as they definitely need to get something sorted PDQ if he is leaving. Though I suppose it could be him who doesn't know if they want him to stay. Damn all this tight lipped stuff.....

He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.

and dont forget theres "a lot happening"

That fans forum that's been coming "next month" for about 6 months. They'll do that thing again where they have a specially invited forum of "random" fans who spent over £200 in the shop, or who are sat in the Wetherspoons in town at midday in their Bulls shirt, already half cut.

I'm also rather tired of being in transition.

Me too but that's a different story..

Smith doesn't cover himself in glory up to Admin 3. As for Toovey he admitted himself that in any other job he would be gone. He thinks the UK loan system is barmy nothing remotely like it in Aus. He seemed fully committed to the cause just needs a settled squad.