That is another worry too, how come they can only raise themselves to play the "big" teams. With half of yesterday's effort they would have made a game of it at Salford, yet they didn't look bothered. Why? Because it was "only" Salford?

That's what I'm thinking too. It's almost as if the effort is put in when we play teams above us, yet those underneath we appear to play down.

Although this is a tongue in cheek comment.......

.....If that's the mentality, (which I'm sure it isn't) it won't be long before we're at the bottom, and all the teams we play will be above us, so fingers crossed

In reality we haven't had the same team play together week to week. For example centre/wing partnerships keep changing and low and behold thats one area where we aren't gelling. Its why I don't think we should change the team for the Fax game.

Its frustrating but this season is going to be all about building for next year. The team that was winning everything years back was a work in progress for what - 3, 4 seasons before that?

Somebody else made a good point about them being at the stage of not playing instinctively and so we are abit slower. Saw that with Chev and Raynor last night when Chev got the ball in our 20 with Raynor in space and he hesitated and didn't make the pass. Got to hope that in future that would have been straight out without thinking.

I'm not as disappointed this morning as I thought I would. We played well and hopefully they can kick on for the Catalan game. Still need someone bossing things in the backs, no direction sometimes especially on the last.

I think we just need to face the fact that this season won't work out well for us and neither will the next if we don't recruit properly. Last night was a better effort than Salford yes, but both teams were very very average. It's sad that not that long ago a game between Bradford and Leeds would have been the best match in the whole of Superleague.

I can accept this team is a "work in progress", but I think our youngters are not anywhere near the standard I think we have been led to believe.

I just feel deflated after last night. We don't look fit enough and lack the ability to kill off a game and come from behind to win. not good enough.

I like our youngsters but at the moment they contribute virtually nothing to 1-7.

Hasn't that been the case for years. Especially In terms of real quality.

Where's this legacy of youth SM left?

Fact that we've got virtually nobody to step in speaks volumes of Maccas legacy.

Loads of Props/Second Rowers and Loose Forwards but no Centres or Wingers. Crookes and Finigan are okay but not good enough yet.

I wanted to see a big improvement after last week and I did. Performance was pleasing but disappointed with the result.

Need to get 2 points on monday though. Desperately.

Is this a problem created because our last couple of head coaches are ex forwards and maybe concentrate more on bringing forwards through the system?

IMO, the problem runs much deeper, possibly to junior level. Big lads are automatically assumed to be forwards and are sent to the pack leaving the small guys in the backs, when in reality they could be blockbusting threequarters. IMO it's important to have big strong fast backs, and levels all across English RL should concentrate on trying to develop some big, fast, strong and skillful backs instead of thinking all big guys are slow and little guys are fast.

I dont really watch much rugby at junior level, but from what I see of the mini games at half time the game at junior level consists of the biggest lad in the team just runs through everyone. I appreciate bit of a outside comment, but from what I see it just seems all about size.

I wonder if inglis was born in england if he would be a centre still or in the pack.