fair enough I will do it without

I don't think you can use it.

I seem to remember something a while ago about the logo not being entirely owned by the Bradford Bulls (I think Chicago Bulls have some sort of copyright) so the club wouldn't even be able to give you permission. Although I'm not sure of the details and not 100% I'm right in that, I'd still stay away from using it just in case.

I like the flames.

Not fussed about the Bullbuilder bit, although I think we don't want to confuse new members into thinking that this is a Bullbuilder messageboard.

Chicago Bulls have the rights to the logo. Bulls pay a licence fee. Last I heard.

Don't think we should have the Bullbuilder logo there, despite the best intentions, for the various reasons already said, and it won't do anyone any good when we have one of our periodic troll infestations.

aha ok... better quality image as Ferocious Aardvark said the other was poor and bullbuider is off, more like the finished thing. Don't wan't to add too much more as it could become crowded.

Missed 'Bulls' off the independent voice part. I quite like some recognition of our SL success incorporated into the new banner.

I know I edited it aha
you want challenge cups and grand finals?

What about a really faint ghosting of the popular side or would that make it look to busy?

Now that I like the sound of..

I was thinking maybe 4 SL rings?

had the same idea but lack of quality of images to do so.

Yeah I thought of doing a crowd shot but just couldn't find a decent one.

I'm also a fan of the less is more approach, the current banner is not the best, in my opinion of course!

Here's my first effort..

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