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| Quote The Punisher..!="The Punisher..!"What about Tony Rea?'"
Do you mean Tony Rae?
Perhaps you mean Chris Rea. His song "Road to Hell" may come in handy.
After 2 off seasons surley Steve Mac can nolonger be 'in transition'.
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| i think most of you guys are being a bit harsh on SM, and this is a knee jerk reaction to last nights result. Last week Leeds beat Quins by a bigger margin, and they were arguably the form team in the competition.
When a team gets beat as convincingly as you guys did last night, the losing team is always going to look poor and make loads of errors because they are playing desperate catch up rugby. when is the last time you saw a team get totally thrashed, and you thought the losing side played well. Last week you convincingly beat Wire, who were running hot. Leeds would have thrashed any team in superleague, and prob any team in the world, they are running that hot at the mo.
you are still a very good team and will hit form at some point, just as Leeds will go off the boil at some point of the season. Just dont hit form against Hull FC please.
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| I love the fact that these fans of other teams who don't have to watch the same cr*p week in, week out and haven't for the last two seasons are coming on commenting on our reaction to one solitary game 
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| Quote andyhullwyke="andyhullwyke"i think most of you guys are being a bit harsh on SM, and this is a knee jerk reaction to last nights result. Last week Leeds beat Quins by a bigger margin, and they were arguably the form team in the competition.
When a team gets beat as convincingly as you guys did last night, the losing team is always going to look poor and make loads of errors because they are playing desperate catch up rugby. when is the last time you saw a team get totally thrashed, and you thought the losing side played well. Last week you convincingly beat Wire, who were running hot. Leeds would have thrashed any team in superleague, and prob any team in the world, they are running that hot at the mo.
you are still a very good team and will hit form at some point, just as Leeds will go off the boil at some point of the season. Just dont hit form against Hull FC please.'"
I think a few on here are struggling with the fact that we aren't the side we once were. I don't think anyone should 'accept' mediocrity however in sport there is almost always a natural cycle of success. The debate seems to centre around whether we have the staff to get us progressing again in the right direction. However there is no such thing as a quick fix.. for now we need to remain patient.
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| Quote Asim="Asim"I love the fact that these fans of other teams who don't have to watch the same cr*p week in, week out and haven't for the last two seasons are coming on commenting on our reaction to one solitary game
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mate, i wouldnt call last weeks victory crap. you might not be the best team in superleague at the mo, but your still a very good team
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| Quote Asim="Asim"I love the fact that these fans of other teams who don't have to watch the same cr*p week in, week out and haven't for the last two seasons are coming on commenting on our reaction to one solitary game
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I wouldn't say it's been crap week in week out. This season alone I had a great time watching the game in France.. and the Wire game left me feeling pretty content and thought we had done a good job against a Wire side with plenty of quality players.
I also enjoyed the game at Leeds last year when we thrashed them in Les's last game. There is plenty more.. hardly week in week out. Perhaps you ought to go watch Cas.. 
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| Quote andyhullwyke="andyhullwyke"mate, i wouldnt call last weeks victory crap. you might not be the best team in superleague at the mo, but your still a very good team'"
Oh well, we beat the ever inconsistent Warrington, whoopy do, all is well whatever went before and comes after.
You're right, we're not the best team in the league, I don't expect us to be - we're certainly not a very good one though.
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| but as many bulls fans say ''no matter what we'll still be at OT come the end of the season''
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| Quote Bully_Boxer="Bully_Boxer"I also enjoyed the game at Leeds last year when we thrashed them in Les's last game.'"
Yep, that was great - and in the 18 games we have played since then we have racked up 7 wins, superb stuff.
Silly errors and poor play has been a feature of this teams play over the last couple of seasons, usually displaying itself in the important games against the bigger teams, now it is spreading to be week in, week out.
Personally I don't take much enjoyment in watching that, Cas may not be too good a team but I doubt they are play as much dumb rugby as we do, and they probably have a little steel and determination to boot.
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| Before comparing the relative attributes of Noble and McNamara one should compare the players they'ver had at their disposal.
Many of the likes of Pryce, Fielden, Peacock, Vainikolo, Withers, Anderson, Vaikona, Lowes and the Paul brothers were never really replaced with players of a similar ability. As such any side would suffer without such talent. In 2001 Noble took over a stable winning side with settled backroom staff and relative financial security (no Harris case).
McNamara took over a side that was breaking up and had to cope with the loss of experienced assistent coaches and divide in the boardroom. The financial implications of Odsal and the Harris case was also hanging over him and the academy was producing less talent than in previous years.
You've got to bear all this in mind as it puts things into perspective. While we may have reservations about McNamara one must recognise he hasn't had the same tools to work with as Noble.
One interesting point that I think is worth considering is the sheer scale of the player departures since 2004/5. A lot of big names and big earners have gone. Despite assurances from the club I'm beginning to doubt whether we are spending the full cap on playing staff. Is this year's squad really on the same as the 2005 team? (I realise we broke the cap that year but not by much).
If so then there are some very mediocre players on big money and some pretty large ones dropped in terms of recruitment. If not then it would explain the fall from grace.
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| I'm sure this Bradford side will go considerably better on the dryer, faster tracks in summer. Their results will probably improve appreciably on the firmer pitches.
They're not gonna be anything like good enough to seriously challenge for honours, though (there's nowt like stating the blindingly obvious, I know !!).
Supporters of a slightly older vintage may have noticed the remarkable similarities that exist between Steve Mac's reign at Odsal, and that of Barry Seabourne, 20 or so years ago.
That all ended in tears, too...
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| It is slightly unfair to put McNamara's record up for scrutiny against Brian Noble's - however standing on its own it is hardly anything to write home about.
Too much of what is wrong with our game surrounds the basic elements of Rugby League, and a clear lack of discipline, leadership and structure - these are things that good coaches have to be able to instil in teams at all levels, from junior to state of origin.
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