The end of the world has been at the end of the garden path several times in the last few years. It's a bit premature to point to any event and say what it doesn't carry with it.

It's the worst I've felt as a bulls fan. I'm not saying that it can't get worse still. If it does then that will probably be the worst. To go from the very top to the position we're in at the moment is quite an achievement, you must admit that?

Well said Pal (Robin ?)....Braford fans will pretty low right now, but it shouldn't last too long. Remember when Fev won 'League One' 4 years in a row, and there only prize was that they could try and win it again the next year....

Sounds like a World Club Championship win.

Aye....im proper giddy tonight. Understandably bradford fans aren't.
But there is now a way back. Remember when leigh benefited from the Gateshead crash n burn? It felt like crapola.... but leigh came back and now have a route back to the big time..... .

Again, context. That was a massive game for both clubs given where they both are, don't you think?

Of course it was. I wasn't commenting on today's game.

It's not a feat unique to Bradford. It's been done many times before in many sports and will be done many more times in the future.

Exactly. That's sport.l

I'm still young as a fan - first ever game was 1996 as a lad with my dad and supported them since, especially in the past couple of years since I grew up a bit and started earning. I guess my early taste of rugby league was slightly skewed with the success of the late 90s to mid noughties. So yeah, this is easily the worst from my perspective in 20 years, and it is really no consolation to hear Fev fans tell me that it could be worse. We might hit a new rock bottom - who knows.

Couple of things:

1. I can't see the crowds turning out for this any longer, especially at the prices we are charging.
2. The squad needs revamping - Jimmy said they were the quiestest bunch he ever worked with and I'm translating that into "no leaders, no grafters".
3. Addy still can't tackle - he's useless.
4. There were some brilliant Fev fans there today who made my game day experience far better on the terrace, and without them I wonder if my mood would have been significantly worse.
5. Congratulations to Fev - you outgunned us in every department.

Why ?

Don't you remember finishing 3rd bottom & being without a Pot to P!$$ in ?

Think dropping O'brien was a big mistake by smith. Against a tiring big pack he would have been in his element. Also feel lightweight pack was a wrong call but not sure if that was forced on us by injuries. If crossley and lauaki were fit then cant see why they werent selected. Ref seemed keen to give fev penalties for anything but we gave him the opportunity to do that so cant use that as an excuse. Ateotd Fev were more up for it and out enthused and out muscled us, as they'd done to batley and fax in previous weeks and got deserved result,

on a side note did the ed up bloke with bottle of cider outside off license on post office road after game get lamped by anyone?. Was certainly asking for it

As a Fev fan since the 60's I'm obviously over the moon with today's win. Feel for you fans. Magnificent turn out again from you, sport can be cruel.

This is what I like to refer to as [iSelective Memory[/i , Leigh finished 3rd bottom, safe in any [iNormal League[/i , yet due to RFL Expansionists & having the French in the Division *who were exempt just as Catalan had been in SL* we were thrust down into that false position.

What I will say to Bulls fans or those of the rest of Championship RL is that Championship RL is very strong, way beyond the level that most SL fans perceive it to be, while SL appears weaker than ever before.

There is [iNo Shame[/i in playing Championship RL, yes the top Clubs aspire to SL & always will but there is enough quality here to enjoy the game.

All of RL Land is crying out for meaningful change whereby consistently dominant Clubs are not excluded from the top table as they have been *not just Leigh* & where Clubs who have big or at least solid core support are rewarded with opportunities.

3 things need to happen IMHO.

1. Auto Promotion for 1st Place.
2. Scrap dual registration
3. Every Club from SL & Championship to run a full Academy team.
4. 2nd place Championship play off v 11th SL *Home & Away*

OK, 4 ... 4 things need to happen.

5. Wakefield expelled from SL

OK, 5 .... 5 things need to happen.

I can semi understand the logic of the AOB thing - massive risk in such a big game though and it really did not pay off. Think the idea was to maybe get more grunt up front and fight size with size with Fev's forwards. That said, I'm with you, when it was basically just running straight from the PTB in the second half and making no yards at alll I did think we really needed his go forward. He must have been utterly frustrated sitting in the stands today.

The only penalties I'd put down as odd was when we were twice penalised for passing the ball after a tackle had been completed (I believe the ref signaled something of the lines off ball carrying arm hit the floor). Haven't seen that penalised for a few years now - I thought the done thing now was that you just take it back to the PTB although I admit there may be some subtlety to the rule I'm not aware of.