Well he's gone and it is a bit disappointing but it's not a tragedy like some drama queens on social media are making out.

We certainly do need another prop, especially if we go up.

Its naive for folk to think we will keep all our perceived better Academy Players whether or not we are in L1 Ch or SL.

Reiss has been on the cusp but also we did not miss him when the position arose and he couldn't fill it and as Sam has said we needed a prop and it just a bit of common sense business by JK!

It's also the reality of the Bull starting from scratch financially!

Well I hope JK knows what he is doing, because I think our side is crying out for a decent hooker even now. If we do go up it will be crucial than we sign someone to play 9.
I was hoping Butterworth would end up being that player so to see him leave is very disappointing.

Hallas cannot be a hooking option next year, he isn't good enough. Flanagan is decent but he's getting on a bit. Vila has improved a lot since JK came in but realistically is a bottom half championship player. He's not top half or potential SL quality.

What's coming through behind Reiss?

With a season from Flanagan on 2019 what's on the radar for 2020 and is it better than Butterworth? I can't see us doing anything other than consolidating a Ch place next year if we are promoted?

Maybe Kear is looking longer term than we are?

Green will do well at this level but will just be steady at Championship level. I believe Fax couldnt meet his wage demands.

Cherry picking of our best young players will continue until such time as we are back at SL level.I watched Trueman tear Leeds apart at the weekend and it hit home how much the past shambolic management have cost this great club and fans.We should have had many years of watching these players in BULLS colours against top sides.That's the real crime here.

100% spot on.

So did I!! Went to Cas expecting a good game and got one.

Like you, exact same thoughts as Trueman took Leeds apart more than once.

As you say, we continue to pay for the mistakes in the past.

Extremely frustrating and the presence of a certain agent up there is doing us no favours whatsoever, and of course he takes a nice slice of the cake.

I fear we will lose some more of our promising youth this coming close season.

Green has looked promising for us when he's been given the rare opportunity but we have at least 6 props ahead of him. Should go very well for you.

To be honest, we are where we are. There is nothing we can do but fight our way out of it and try to get back at the top table and if Kear needs to cut and deal to achieve that, then it's fine by me.

If young players leave, then they leave, they have a short career in RL and I don't blame them one iota for maximising the earnings potential that they've got, so if we gain another player (or two) to compensate for our loss then I'll call that a win. In our situation we need to play a longish game and not expect everything to fall into place tomorrow.

That just about covers it for me too. Reiss obviously knows the pecking order currently (as we have all probably surmised too), and if he has the chance to go f/t with a SL club I don't think there is anything we can do to hinder him.

We can produce these great players, and we even have players in the England U19 team tonight to prove that. When we start heading upwards I'm sure we will be a lot more attractive for them to stay with us.

At least we're getting something our coach wants in return here too. Not like in the past......

Kear must think we are covered in that position for next year and possibly the one after that. It is a shame to lose the lad but we need promotion and then hopefully a top half or even try for a top 4 next year. I think we will see a few released this year as they are struggling to get a game in Div 1 never mind the championship next season. We can't keep and sign everyone so things have to give. Foxy built his team round a strong pack and Kear looks similar. As others have said, when we are back pushing at the top of the championship the extra money and bigger games will help with retention and recruitment - hopefully!

Now stating it's a loan for rest of season

If Reiss is not getting game time with us then he should go on loan cant see the big deal, however if we let him go next year it will be our loss.

Green coming on loan to Bradford for the season, with a view to a permanent move for next season.

Can't see why Butterworth would be a loan to Cas though. They're not short of options in the halves and hooker, and I can't see him getting a first team game for them just yet. A permanent signing would make sense as he's a long term option, especially if Adam Milner ends up going to the NRL as has been rumoured.

I agree

I can't help feeling there's more to this than appears at face value. We've got a guy who hasn't had a sniff of a game for us all season who goes out to Batley on loan and straight into their first team. Then Castleford want to sign him (albeit as 'a project', I assume). It just seems odd

For some reason his face doesn't appear to fit with us - despite the fact the coaches at SL and Championship clubs obviously rate him very highly