Karl was a typical example of someone who breezed, like a future international, through the ages but then failed in open age where his opponents (A) didn't quake in their boots when they saw the size of him and (B) were prepared to front up to him. Sad really, he has plenty of skill but, after his junior days, has just seemed to not want to get involved.

Leon was typical of that too when he was with us. Whenever he had those occasional displays of petulance with the opposition he always struck me as someone who had always previously been able to do what they want but suddenly found himself up against people who not only wanted to stop him but were able to.

Karl's a nice lad who was never really that bothered if he made it or not. He's just happy going with the flow. He had the physical tools but not the desire to make them count. That makes a few people fed up because you wonder what he could've done. I don't think he's all that bothered.

With my rugby brain I would have been better than Lockyer. Unfortunately my physical tools have a tendency to default towards the fat lazy bastrd setting so it never happened

Actually, I think that's spot on.

I often used to wonder just how Leon got all the aggressive and competitive genes in the family and Karl...well, he just didn't.

To be right, when I think about the might have beens, I'm more disappointed for Karl than I am because because my rugby team missed out on a [potential] world beater, but again, I think you're right, Karl isn't really that bothered. I did [sort of] meet him once with a group of others, and he comes over as a decent, well balanced sort of guy, so I guess he's doing alright.

He is a cracking lad. I've known him a long time. I'd love for him to come back even for a couple of seasons and really dig in. He could have been the best back of his generation because of his size and pace and his ability to anticipate space or smash his way through. He is the epitomy of chilled out and I think that's let him down. He isn't afraid of being roughed up, he has had it all his life, through juniors, academy and open age all because of his name. When he wants to play he is unplayable for the opposition

Bumped into him twice in my time - both times in a chinese!

I hope you didn't literally bump into him, he'd doubtless have been limping for the next few days

I just hope you helped him up off the floor after.

how do they conclude that 33 tries + 1 goal = 190 points???

Creative accounting - must be an MBE or even a knighthood for whoever worked that one out!

Ah... No wonder we won 2 more Grand Finals during that period!

Did leedsnsouths tell you that?

Karl is Audley Harrison. A monster of a bloke with the natural talent to storm it, but not the heart.

As people have said, if the Pryce family had shared the aggression out just a little bit fairer, both lads would have been better for it.