At least we may hear from the upper echelons of the club again. Even if it is only another apology.

Some of it is down to confidence rather than laziness. Wigan's younger players run their blood to water because they know that if they do they'll probably win. Our players can do that if they get off to a good start or get into the game such as when we beat Warry. But the body language suggests that they generally expect to lose. And conceding an early try just reinforces that lack of belief. Their opening try pricked our balloon, the energy just evaporated out of the team.

We all know the job's fooked and has been since the points came off at the start of the season. There's no reason to suggest that the players are thinking any different. Imagine winding a business down with redundancy beckoning. Efficiency and quality control are going to go out of the window. They'll be more focussed on trying to sort their livelihoods for next season and who can blame them?

So you might get the occasional game where it all comes together but generally the mood will be one of resignation. Very hard to see how anyone can shake them out of that really.

Correct. The players are mentally shattered and whatever Cummins is saying is not getting through to them. The idea that despite the fear of being out of work at the season's end 12 or 13 of the players who played on Saturday simply can't be bothered is absurd. They're not very good, they're not sure what they're doing and they don't believe it would make any difference anyway.

Ferecious Aardvark - you are more than welcome to come a get Harrison - take him away!!

Mind you know what its like when your club is in thus position as Fax were in 2003 , it is a shame to see Bradord in their current predicament.

Surely one good way of ensuring that their livelihoods are sorted out for next season is by actually playing well and puting yourself in the shop window?

Let's be honest, who on earth would want any of our players on current form?

I disagree. The trick to acquiring any player isn't to see his current form, but weigh up what he [icould[/i do for you if handled correctly. The trick if you sign him is then to man-manage him - with the rest - to get the best out of the whole.

There are plenty in our squad who would (and probably will) play in SL next year, and will do much better than they have been for us. There are certainly plenty who have a boatload more ability than they have shown of late. That's the most frustrating thing for me. If they were all inherently crap, yet trying their best every week, that would do for me.

About a million times less absurd than the notion that they played like that yet WERE "bothered"!



You are I think in a considerable minority if you think they really were bothered. The coach himself, who i suggest is well placed to really know, is in the majority:


Now, in my book, if players "ARE NOT PREPARED TO DEFEND ON THE BACK OF ERRORS" then that is not being bothered. Do you disagree?



The idea that 12 or 13 of the players who played on Saturday simply couldn't be bothered is therefore a long way from absurd. On the contrary, you have basically had this spelled out by the coach, who is warning the fans that he can't guarantee that all the players will even turn up, or be willing to do a job for the team, and he's worried we could even get embarrassed by Wakefield.

I haven't quite heard anything as defeatist publicly said by the man who is supposed to be motivating the said team, in all my days.

Don't buy this "we were down as soon as we had the 6 points taken off" that's absolutely rubbish. A lot of
Games this season we have had a good team on the field but been given an absolutely spanking in MOST games this season. The players have been paid every week and the "financial troubles" have been resolved for weeks. There is absolutely no excuses for the "effort"'some of these players are putting in.

In 2012 you could have forgiven them for putting in these kind of performances when they won't getting paid on time and we didn't really have anything to play for as there was no relegation. Those players busted a gut to get in the play-offs. This lot think its ok to give up after 30 seconds and see another huge score put past us.

No, 'Not prepared' and 'can't be bothered' don't mean the same thing.

Cummins may have inadvertently hit on the root cause of the problem. If the team was collectively unprepared to defend off the back of errors he needs to look at himself, or have they all gone down with lazyitis on the same day?

For present purposes, then, you'll need to explain the difference, cos I'm buggered if I can see a material one!

To me that reads like Cummins has lost the dressing room, as they say these days.