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| Quote: Roofaldo "Edinburgh was no better for marketing. They showed it on Boots n All where they asked locals about it and most of them knew nothing at all about the sport or the fact there was this event on in the city over that weekend.
Personally, I'm in favour of expansion. Because the game needs to be spread to help improve it because the further the game spreads, the more people will watch and take part in the game. We therefore get a bigger player pool and more interest from sponsors. More sponsors mean more money in the sport. More money in the sport means more interest from the media.
Expansion beyond the M62 so far has failed beyond 2 teams; London and Catalans. London has it's well documented problems along with it's gypsy like status of being moved on every few years. Catalans has the obvious problem of away support, it's bloody expensive to go from the south of France to Manchester/Yeadon every other weekend. And vice versa, it's hard to get good away crowds flying down there, not that they don't do their best.
So with that in mind, why don't we focus on making the heartlands of the sport as strong as we can before we spread out beyond it. Therefore, having the Magic Weekend in Manchester is a better chance of getting a sellout than it would be in Cardiff or Edinburgh and makes the game much more of an interest.'"
I suspect you'll be right about Manchester getting more support, if only because it's easier (and less expensive) to get to.
If it had been in Cardiff again I would have given it a miss; too far and too long on the coach for a day out and neither me nor the wife really fancied the weekend in Cardiff as it just isn't really a 'destination' city with lots of attractions like Edinburgh. I do think the cost is becoming more of a problem too with the way things are. The annual trip to Perpignan is.., well, I was going to say sacrosanct, though that's probably putting it a bit strongly, and if it came to the crunch then it would have to be given a miss, but it is very enjoyable and I would hate to miss it, so if it comes down to cost cutting MM would go first for me.
All in all it's difficult for the RFL to bring in initiatives in a recession and whilst the move to Manchester will, no doubt, be called a retrenchment back to the M62, it's a sensible move to me.
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| Quote: Bulliac "....
All in all it's difficult for the RFL to bring in initiatives in a recession and whilst the move to Manchester will, no doubt, be called a retrenchment back to the M62, it's a sensible move to me.'"
The thing is, (and the marketing people at the RFL, who have been organising stuff with some very decent success of late, will clearly know this), they will always end up getting called, whatever they do, so they might as well just get on with it. They could get a 200,000 crowd while England thrashed Australia in Paradise Stadium with free admission, food, drink and transport for all, you would still get whingeing.
Personally I think MM has become a fixture, it is one rare upmarket, positive event which attracts a bit of wider publicity, and I am sure the fact it is in Manchester is a merciful and wise nod to the recession and people's wallets.
Well done RFL.
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| think the rfl need to focus on areas close to heartlands ie. brum south yorks and cumbria.
before moving back on with the magic gubbins in cardiff, london and edinburgh
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| Quote: Adeybull "And, on paper, gift Leeds two points at our expense - which could make the difference between finishing in the play-offs or outside? And, I fear if we have another year like last, between survival and oblivion?'"
What sized economic margin are we talking when comparing the income from the magic weekend and, say, an 8th-place play off qualification?
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| I still think its a development event. After all there are no Rugby League clubs in the city of Manchester.
This is a polite request for someone to fall into my trap.
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| rlhttps://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
this is what is going on to expand outside the heartland, one step at a time, but lets hope that there are away games at Coventry, Northampton, Bristol etc in the not too distant future.
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| Quote: martinwildbull "rlhttps://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
this is what is going on to expand outside the heartland, one step at a time, but lets hope that there are away games at Coventry, Northampton, Bristol etc in the not too distant future.'"
Be very careful what you wish for
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| I didnt say winning away games, one step at a time with both developments, the Bulls and the game. On the Bulls, fighting talk from Platt and Donaldson in the T&A today, so I wish that it turns into good games for them both this season.
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| Quote: martinwildbull "rlhttps://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME
this is what is going on to expand outside the heartland, one step at a time, but lets hope that there are away games at Coventry, Northampton, Bristol etc in the not too distant future.'"
This year CC1 consists of Doncaster,Rochdale,Oldham,Gateshead,South Wales,North Wales,London Skolars,Barrow,Whitehaven and Workington. That's one hell of a lot of travel fore a semi pro league. The top four teams will be promoted to the Championship at the end of this season to make way for four expansion teams, the first of which being Northampton. For the unlucky northern team who does not make the 'four' this is virtually a death sentence. They will be left in what amounts to an amatuer league, with huge travelling commitments and also have the added benefit of zero away support at their home games.
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| Quote: hi de hi "This year CC1 consists of Doncaster,Rochdale,Oldham,Gateshead,South Wales,North Wales,London Skolars,Barrow,Whitehaven and Workington. That's one hell of a lot of travel fore a semi pro league. The top four teams will be promoted to the Championship at the end of this season to make way for four expansion teams, the first of which being Northampton. For the unlucky northern team who does not make the 'four' this is virtually a death sentence. They will be left in what amounts to an amatuer league, with huge travelling commitments and also have the added benefit of zero away support at their home games.'"
Not much difference from the semi-pro blue square north football league which has similar away trips and similar attendances.
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| Quote: Leaf "Not much difference from the semi-pro blue square north football league which has similar away trips and similar attendances.'"
No it isn't. Workington to London? Whitehaven to South Wales? Add to the list four more back of beyond places for 2013. Can you imagine the expense involved following a CC1 team from 2013 onwards? But as usual if the RFL deems it is 'for the good of the game' then the loyal fans of existing CC1 teams will just have to lump it.
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| You could always move to Toulouse . . .
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| Quote: hi de hi "No it isn't. Workington to London? Whitehaven to South Wales? Add to the list four more back of beyond places for 2013. Can you imagine the expense involved following a CC1 team from 2013 onwards? But as usual if the RFL deems it is 'for the good of the game' then the loyal fans of existing CC1 teams will just have to lump it.'"
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the soccer people have north and south versions of their 'conference' leagues, which I'd think would be the equivalent, in the sense that they are part-time, of the championship teams. Difficulty for RL would probably be the lack of clubs to make up two regional divisions. It's big price for the Championship teams to pay though.
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| Quote: hi de hi "No it isn't. Workington to London? Whitehaven to South Wales? Add to the list four more back of beyond places for 2013. Can you imagine the expense involved following a CC1 team from 2013 onwards? But as usual if the RFL deems it is 'for the good of the game' then the loyal fans of existing CC1 teams will just have to lump it.'"
Workington to Bishop's Stortford, Blyth to Gloucester.. its not far off. Though Bishop's Stortford are in there because of an administrative mess up, Gloucester genuinely are in the northern part of football at that level.
I wouldn't call Northampton the back of beyond either, can't get much more central than that in England!
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| I don't see how they cant have a northern conference and southern conference could pave way for more teams to join, or RU teams forming RL teams as the competition for places wont be as fierce.
Then the winners of each division have a playoff and they winner of that goes into the championship. Have a money prize depending upon where they finish in the league would be more appetizing for amateur teams to compete.
I also have a sneaking suspicion that the ticket prices will increase now it is going to be in Manchester only due to the face fair amounts of the support wont have to fork out for accommodation.
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