But that's history. Leeds pitch is just plain lazy or plain tight.

Just been looking at the table, after this poor start to the season that people are talking about.

I see we are in the top 8.

I see we are one converted try off being in the top half of the table.

I see we have already played all the current top 5.

I see we are the only club in the competition so far to have beaten the current league leaders.

I see we are only 3 points off being in the top 4.

I see we have not yet picked up any serious injuries.

And I see that for now at least we are above Leeds for the first time in a long long time.

And all this despite having been dire against Stains, capitulating against Wire, not gelled enough against Hudds (although still only one try behind) and crippled by lurgy against Hull.

Nothing like as bad as it might have been, and a reasonable platform from which to push on from here?

Well that's a fair assessment imo

This is neither the time nor the place for sensible comment.



Jesus! I despair of you lot I really do. It's the worst possible start! Sack the coach! Why is he leaving a player of the quality of Mike Worrincy out? Don't you wish they lost every match of the season so that the coach gets sacked? etc. etc. etc.

There's a record stuck somewhere in Gdansk!

The pitch at our place was 50 times better than preseason last week. All this crap weather from today and the rest of this week could make it a bog again though.

I noticed mick said we had 9 out too which isn't true. We had 7 1st teamers out againt Wigan but Sinfield, Leuluai, Delaney and Ablett are due back on Thursday so it only leaves us 3 short now.

Reckon it should be a good game.

Good points all. But this one I was asked about it leaving the game on Friday night, when was the last time we were above Leeds in the table? I couldn't answer at the time, just that its been a while, and you've just reminded me I was going to look it up.

Well, I've had a look now and by my reckoning it was Round 18 of the 2007 season, when we beat Leeds at Headingly 38-14. Lesleys last game.

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Pointless bit of stats, but its good to remember games like that ahead of Thursday

A win today and we'll be well above the 50% mark and with tough away games at Huddersfield, Warrington, Hull FC and Leeds.

Things are looking better all the time.

Things are looking better all the time.'"

If we can keep scraping the wins, and improving, we may be top 6 soon enough.

It was scrappy today, but that's to be expected with only a couple of days rest. As long as the 2 points keep coming, I won't have too much complaining to do.

At risk of having it explained that if my auntie had got balls she'd be my uncle...had we won one more game than we have then we'd be 4th in the table now...

I get the feeling that the point we got at Headingley could be crucial come the play-offs.