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| More or less my thoughts, FA.
I've thought all along that that the deduction was precipitate and should only have been decided when the 'owners' were decided and their plans could be properly scrutinised. If, at the end of the day, its a fair decision, then fine but you can't decide that a couple of months before the owners are known.
Yet another fine example of our headless 'friends' in the RFL running round the farmyard..
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| Quote Bulliac="Bulliac"More or less my thoughts, FA.
I've thought all along that that the deduction was precipitate and should only have been decided when the 'owners' were decided and their plans could be properly scrutinised. If, at the end of the day, its a fair decision, then fine but you can't decide that a couple of months before the owners are known.
Yet another fine example of our headless 'friends' in the RFL running round the farmyard..'"
Yes, it's both the lack of transparency, and the sense of making it up as they go along, that I can't stand.
When you cobble together the chronology and the facts that have slowly emerged piecemeal, it is obvious:
a) BB2014 proposed the RFL a deal
b) RFL said OK we accept you, but we don't like the deal much so the following sanctions will apply
c) BB2014 said no, stuff that, we do not agree
d) therefore there was no deal.
It looks like therefore the RFL acted precipitously, never considering that BB2014 might not agree (after all, the RFL had the precedent of their last minute ultimata to OK which he was pressurised into accepting, so probably they thought Moore & Co. would roll over in the same way).
But the deal was never done, and so the points should never have been deducted as that was simply a part of the deal - indeed it was a huge slap in BB2014's face precisely based on what deal they had offered. It was only what it was, BECAUSE OF the nature of that offer. The RFL simply never thought BB2014 would walk away. When that happened they should immediately have confirmed that the points proposal, like the whole deal, had never been completed.
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| Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Ferocious Aardvark"Logically when the provisional acquisition by the prospective new owner was terminated, we had a position where the RFL had said to BB2014 "yes, you can have it, but on these terms ..... including we'll be deducting 6 points". When MM & Co. said fook that, and did not agree, but walked, the RFL should have said OK then we will leave the points decision in abeyance, and decide what it will be if and when we have an actual new owner, based on THEIR plans and documentation.'"
Quote Ferocious Aardvark="Bulliac"I've thought all along that that the deduction was precipitate and should only have been decided when the 'owners' were decided and their plans could be properly scrutinised. If, at the end of the day, its a fair decision, then fine but you can't decide that a couple of months before the owners are known.
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Exactly what I've been saying since we recieved the 6 points, it was a penalty for going into administration, to be applied to the new owners and the club when we exited administration, with any consideration on reducing the 6 points to 4 or 2 taken on how the new owner/club exited administration and their plans. (so the rfl have been quoted as saying) and thats all fair enough, and if it stayed at 6 and was explained why then fine...but thats not what happened.
The RFL hit us with the 6 points when they did almost in a fit of anger with moore and co, before any deal was signed and whilst we were still trying to exit admin (and it could/probably did affect the value of any bid after the deduction). The 6 points was to be a condition of the BB2014 purchase, but it was applied to the league table immediately - surely it should have been removed when the BB2014 bid failed and only reapplied after fresh consideration "after" Mr Greens bid was successfull?? (and if it was still 6 points, and explained why then fine)
The RFL have said in print that the club/new owners can appeal, and Mr Green has said they are looking at in internally, but I really, really hope they do appeal, if for no other reason as we might get some clarity on the situation, because its not clear as far as Im concerned.
edit, pretty much as FA said before I could type the above, oh well.
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|  great minds and all that ...
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"...Ooooh. Supposed Blatant favouritism shown to London dependant on opnions v Proven and documented Loans, lease purchase and bail outs provided to Bradford.....it's gonna be close
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| Quote M@islebugs="M@islebugs"The former Minister of Sport who occupies a Westminster seat which is pretty much unlose-able piggy backed a bid to buy the Bulls to make a name for himself?
And the administrator broke the law by accepting a lower bid than was achievable because the RFL were under the total misapprehension that Bradford Council were behind Omar Khan?
Where you get this stuff?'"
It was meant in the context mainly aimed at Omar making a name for himself and people to look to him as the "Saviour"
And i get my stuff from someone at the Bulls (who is still there) who was told this by Mr. Sutcliffe himself, and proud of it he was aswell of how they got the club.
And more to the point it wasnt even Omar with the money it was his brothers money, just like the restaurants, owned by his brother just have Omars name above the door,
And yes it may be "illegal" for an administrator to do that but we all know in this day and age nobody plays by the rules, especially if the administrator can drag it on longer than necessary for a bigger pay day !!
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| Quote Duckman="Duckman"The RFL have said in print that the club/new owners can appeal, and Mr Green has said they are looking at in internally, but I really, really hope they do appeal, if for no other reason as we might get some clarity on the situation, because its not clear as far as Im concerned.'"
Heres what id like to happen,
Mr Green will appeal nothing will be done until later in the season about it, we win enough games going forward to make it close at the bottom with like 3-4 teams on the same points (including us)
The RFL pop up and say appeal successful here you go have 2 points back,
Which in effect come end of the season its only 2 point difference that means we avoid the drop,
RLFANS goes into total meltdown over how the Bulls have been bailed out once again by the RFL
2015 Season - Bulls once again become a force to be reckoned with and go on to win both CC and Grand final - and everyone complains of (even though best team in the season) how we should not be in the league so not true champions
And then i woke up.......................... 
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| Quote gutterfax="gutterfax"
...given your clubs illustrious and long history, your attendances are embarrassing, the flea-pit you play out of is archaic and you're now owned by and sponsored by loan sharks.......
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You know, most of the time you are completely on the mark, and that is why so many people on here cannot take to you. A lot you say is just not what some people want to hear said about their team. However, most of it is spot on and I cannot fault it. I agree with the majority of it, and, given your penchant for annoying people, the fact that you have avoided a ban thus far suggests that the mods are in agreement that what you say has a certain amount of merit, if not said in a somewhat provocative manner.
In essence, it could be said that we are two peas in a pod.
However, I cannot let this, above, lie. This must be the most ironic post I have ever seen on this board. A London fan having a go at attendances?? Really??
And as if that was bad enough you then have a pop at the ground. I accept that it is not exactly the Ritz, most of us on here would agree on that but at least we are not a bunch of gypsies who have to regularly go, cap in hand, to anyone who will have us. You have probably had more super league grounds than you have amassed super league points during your "illustrious" tenure in the top flight.
I actually thought that you were better than that. Clearly not.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie"However, I cannot let this, above, lie. This must be the most ironic post I have ever seen on this board. A London fan having a go at attendances?? Really??
And as if that was bad enough you then have a pop at the ground. I accept that it is not exactly the Ritz, most of us on here would agree on that but at least we are not a bunch of gypsies who have to regularly go, cap in hand, to anyone who will have us. You have probably had more super league grounds than you have amassed super league points during your "illustrious" tenure in the top flight.'"
This made me smile 
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| gutterfux is an attention seeker. He tends to post crazy shiit like that when he's feeling ignored, just like the 3 year old in the supermarket aisle having a tantrum to get her mam's attention.

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| [urlhttp://www.bradfordbulls.co.uk/news/article/9068/gameday-guide-bulls-v-red-devils[/url
"Meanwhile, supporters who have already pre-purchased a ticket - or are a BELONG 2014 season-ticket holder - will be able to gain access through turnstiles 7, 8, 16, 17, 32 and 38."
I'm taking that as confirmation my season ticket is being honoured.
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| Quote mystic eddie="mystic eddie" ... I accept that it is not exactly the Ritz,...'"
But old gutters nickname for us is the Bradford Bills. So it would be kinda funny if we played at The Writs
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