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| Yes. Give Toovs a chance
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| Quote: redeverready "I struggle to see why Rohan Smith is so highly thought of. His record with the squad we had wasn't great and in the clubs biggest game in living memory the team folded like a pack of cards rolled over and died.'"
That 0-20 vs Fev was probably the most disappointing match I've ever been to.
That said he had the side playing better rugby than his predecessor and seemed to have an idea about how to recruit. Like Toovey there were off field distractions and he never got the chance to show what he could do with his own side. I think Smith came over well, he conducted himself impeccably during Admin 3. I think that's why he's well thought of.
Based purely on results though we blew it badly when he had the big chance to show he was up to the job.
What's your thoughts on Toovey Red?
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| Quote: Bulliac "I've said before that I'm not exactly enamoured with Toovey.
Great player as he was, there is absolutely nothing in his record to suggest he is what we need at Odsal. He won one championship in Aussie, with the team of stars that he'd played with the previous year, then as the team got too old and fell apart he did nothing to bring in or improve players to take on the mantle. We need a Peter Fox or a John Keir type, not an Aussie superstar - someone who can get players to play above themselves.'"
You've written my post for me. This is where I'm at too.
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| I'm not sure that's a very objective view of Toovey's time as coach at Manly.
I agree we need a coach that can get players to play above themselves. Any suggestions? Obvs Kear is now signed up at Wakey.
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| What about Jon Sharpe. He's experienced at the level below SL. Did a brilliant job at Fev
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| We need as much continuity/consistency as we can muster. Get Toovs to stay for next year then review where we are after a full preseason and season...
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| Quote: Bullseye "I'm not sure that's a very objective view of Toovey's time as coach at Manly.
I agree we need a coach that can get players to play above themselves. Any suggestions? Obvs Kear is now signed up at Wakey.'"
Well, I'll accept it's not a full blow by blow account of every minute he spent there, (as I'd never heard of him before he came over it was all blagged from the internet, tbh and dont forget theres "a lot happening"
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| Quote: Bullseye "He's maybe waiting to find out at the fans forum. Transitioning out of these circumstances is obviously occupying all of Chalo's time.'"
That fans forum that's been coming "next month" for about 6 months. They'll do that thing again where they have a specially invited forum of "random" fans who spent over £200 in the shop, or who are sat in the Wetherspoons in town at midday in their Bulls shirt, already half cut.
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| I'm also rather tired of being in transition.
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| Me too but that's a different story..
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| Quote: Bullseye "That 0-20 vs Fev was probably the most disappointing match I've ever been to.
That said he had the side playing better rugby than his predecessor and seemed to have an idea about how to recruit. Like Toovey there were off field distractions and he never got the chance to show what he could do with his own side. I think Smith came over well, he conducted himself impeccably during Admin 3. I think that's why he's well thought of.
Based purely on results though we blew it badly when he had the big chance to show he was up to the job.
What's your thoughts on Toovey Red?'"
Smith doesn't cover himself in glory up to Admin 3. As for Toovey he admitted himself that in any other job he would be gone. He thinks the UK loan system is barmy nothing remotely like it in Aus. He seemed fully committed to the cause just needs a settled squad.
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| I agree about the loan system, it's barmy, but it is designed for our unique (British) circumstances.
Without a proper reserve grade, how else would many young players coming out of the academy play in a suitable environment, which is both beneficial to their own development and which also benefits the clubs? From our own, admittedly special, point of view this season we wouldn't have had a squad without the loanees and DRs, we'd have been down to playing all the academy lads, whether they were mature enough or not. Even with the loaned players a few of our 'kids' have been flogged a bit more than is good for them, imo.
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| What about Nobby - got experience of the upper end of League 1
(Not actually a serious suggestion, but it is officially law that Brian Noble must be linked to the head coach job every time it comes into question)
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