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Quote: Adeybull "

Even though GB's figures could be viewed as misleading in isolation - the figures I have quoted maybe give a more balanced picture - he is surely spot on when he points out that to judge a player - one who most of us view (or, for those with short memories, viewed) as being our most important creative and threatening player on the park - by a single stat is disingenuous at best.'"


icon_biggrin.gif yup

But this won't prevent B4C getting herself in a tizz.

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Btw, same stats for Whitehead and Lynch, and also James Graham and Morley:

Whitehead----411; 49; 12%
Lynch---------445; 7; 1.6%
Graham-------368; 10; 2.7%
Morley--------370; 20; 5.4%

Any Lynch-baggers around care to comment?

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Quote: Adeybull "Btw, same stats for Whitehead and Lynch, and also James Graham and Morley

You know they wont because that was their "opinion" - that was only based on what they thought and not the facts !!!

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Other thing around BKs missed tackles is how many were last line "we've been cut to shreds" misses. There were tackles he "missed" in the Wigan game where there was no chance in hell of anyone making them. Fullback always gets made to look like a tit in a bad defensive performance.

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Quote: jockabull "Other thing around BKs missed tackles is how many were last line "we've been cut to shreds" misses. There were tackles he "missed" in the Wigan game where there was no chance in hell of anyone making them. Fullback always gets made to look like a tit in a bad defensive performance.'"


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This

Any full back that gets massively exposed by other people's mistakes is going to look bad.

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Is it just me, or (on this occasion) is B4C2010 on the wrong end of a right good stonking on the subject of BK? eusa_think.gif

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Quote: Adeybull "Is it just me, or (on this occasion) is B4C2010 on the wrong end of a right good stonking on the subject of BK?
Clearly hasnt got a clue icon_lol.gif

But in saying that it could be royston in disguise, bit like Russell Crowe on t&a site a010.gif

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "Clearly hasnt got a clue
Even simpler...if any of the Top 8 were offered either Royston or Kearney FOC, what are the odds of Shad being the pick?

Rocket science it is not.

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "Clearly hasnt got a clue
Except we know Michael exists...

In fairness, when he is not on one his many wind-ups he often makes good points and does have a clue - admittedly, depending on which is the current persona. The Sacha Baron Cohen of the internet forums, even. That is why I can't work out whether this (and various others of late) is indeed a wind-up, that maybe he is getting bored of this persona now, or whether it is indeed genuine opinion. If the latter, well fully entitled to it obviously - but IMO surprising.

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Quote: Gurus_Beard "Even simpler...if any of the Top 8 were offered either Royston or Kearney FOC, what are the odds of Shad being the pick?

Rocket science it is not.'"


To be fair i reckon both would be snapped up quite sharpish by top 8 teams if FOC

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Quote: pulsator2k7 "To be fair i reckon both would be snapped up quite sharpish by top 8 teams if FOC'"


The scenario was "either/or".

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Connor has tweeted that Kearney is likely to play but Scruton needs another week.

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Call me pessimistic, but I can see a return to the silly scenario of Shad and BK sharing 1 and 6 duties..

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Quote: Adeybull "Stats for selected Bulls players and the others GB listed.

Name------tackles; missed; % missed

Kearney-------73; 26; 35%
L'estrange-----342; 32; 9%
Ah Van--------153; 33; 22%
Chase---------149; 40; 27%
Soliola---------305; 34; 11%
Witt-----------244; 36; 15%
Galea----------423; 35; 8%
Dureau---------191; 46; 24%
Monaghan------375; 32; 9%

What does this tell us?

1 - Other "key" players have indeed missed more tackles than Kearney.
2 - Kearney has missed a significantly bigger % of his tackles than any of the others - over four times as many per tackle as some of the others.

What does it NOT tell us?

1 - How many tackles BK missed playing at 6 c/w at 1?
2 - What ELSE BK did that contributed significantly to our performance on the field.
3 - How many matches each player has played, and what the match averages are.*

Can we conclude anything form the missed tackle stats?

Even though GB's figures could be viewed as misleading in isolation - the figures I have quoted maybe give a more balanced picture - he is surely spot on when he points out that to judge a player - one who most of us view (or, for those with short memories, viewed) as being our most important creative and threatening player on the park - by a single stat is disingenuous at best.

* EDIT


He also played some games at 7 and played well. I can't remember who played stand off but prior to Jeffries lets be honest it's been AN Other. I like BK but the missed tackle stat does support what I've thought watching him from the stand. With exception of the Webb tackle in the Leeds game I can't think of a 1 on 1 tackle he's actually made while defending at FB. Having said that there's lots of halves who aren't defensively solid but in a team as fragile as we have been we cannot protect him.

Line call for me, a classy player with the ball who has always given everything but in a team that is defensively suspect, he stands out.

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With 3 fit half backs we can only hope he plays Kearney at FB. But Shad doesnt deserve to be dropped. Maybe to be played in Centres, either way it will be a interesting squad selection come Sunday

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