You're just being rude there considering you had a pop at someone earlier in the thread for using the phrase 'the likes of' when picking out examples of Leeds players. You're obviously a knowledgeable bloke, why resort to cheap insults?

He is a she, apparentely.

I sustained my point.

At what point do I need your assistance or suggestions? Oh that's right, I don't. So on ya go flower with your new alias.

My real alias? What's your real alias? Not that I should have to explain myself to anyone on an anonymous internet forum but I very rarely post on here mainly because I very rarely feel the desire to. I read posts with interest and was engaged enough by this thread to contribute.

I could easily turn your question back on you to read: 'What are McDermott's undeniable positive abilities? Losing multiple games.' But that would just be futile.

If you really need me to point things out to you. He was an accomplished player and two-time Dally M Medallist, served a solid coaching apprenticeship under Matty Elliott, has coached at both junior and senior levels and has a reasonable track record of aiding young players' development, improved an upstart Catalans Dragons side enough to take them to a Challenge Cup final and a top-three finish (heights they have failed to come close to since) and reached two Grand Finals with Saints.
Yes, he lost both of those finals and that is an obvious blot on his copybook. But just as Potter has his faults, so does McDermott, something you seem to forget at times.

Would you care to clarify what you mean by this point, given the fact that you consistently backed "Macca" for all the time he was at Bradford?

Or is it the fact that now he is away he has suddenly become crap?

After all, you always seemed to disagree with anyone who ever slated McNamara but there now seems to be a bit of a shift in opinion here. I may be "moaning" but at least I do not change my views in order to suit the argument.....

As for McDermott v McNamara??? Not so sure but TBH, I do not give a stuff HOW McDermott goes, just as long as our own new boss does a job. More interested in my own side I have to say.

Until you randomly defend a post that has sod all to do with you? Oooook

In which case I apologise.

And to Guru's Beard: I wasn't trying to lead your behaviour in any way, merely making an observation and then voicing my opinion. I find your suggestion I am a current board member masquerading as someone else a touch insulting but short of offering my full name and legal documents I wouldn't be able to fully satisfy you. In any case, I'm not bothered who you think I am.

Gurus. I haven't been involved in the whole London players debate here, but I would appreciate if you could answer a question as I'm intrigued.

Who, IN YOUR OPINION (i.e. Google is useless here unless you have a blog it will show up) do you think is a London player that has been brought through with "real talent"?

I'd be interested to know who you are referring to.

Do the research yourself. When you get home and can use Google. Or the internet in general.

I'm not asking who other people think are real talent. I want YOUR OPINION. That's not on Google or the internet as far as I can see. Unless you can provide a link where you have expressed this?

He doesnt know, thats why he wont answer.
He'll probably come up with some joker like Jamie O'Callaghan or that Olsi kid.

Love what you did there, the old "he won't answer but he will" bit. Clever. No, really.

You still looking to see when Greg Eastwood was injured in your continually flawed research?

another on the foe list

Why wont you answer it?

Nah Im not looking at that anymore.