I came up with a rule for this. If the defence takes over 45 seconds for any reason inc injury, the attack gets an 8 tackle set

How did Donaldson go against Hull ?

Maybe I should concentrate on the refs then. That would get your approval.

You say this, then give us this gem.



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Dear me. World class? Stop being so bloody silly.

First half your defence was very good. It was only the last 5 minutes when you started to tire and Manu came close and then Tansey scored. Second half you were still hard to break down on your own line but I thought we found it alot easier to get over the advantage line.

I would be a little worried about your fitness though. You had all the field position in the first half and we had to take alot of punishment, yet you looked very tired at the end of the half and the fact you let us score so late was what won the game, you could tell there was no coming back from it.

We looked tired because we struggled to contain the Hull pack after they played up the middle virtually all game. We're a Prop down and we need to address this if we have hopes of finishing well inside the play off spots.

If a number of the squad had been down with sickness over recent days, and it seems clear some at least should not really have played had there been any alternative (I guess we could have given Worrincy a run... ) - all as has been suggested, then that would likely help explain a lot of things fitness-wise?

Worrincy was walking like he had a pelvic injury so that was probably why he wasn't on the bench, shame really as he would have had to front with half the team not at full fitness, Sheriffe fronted up so maybe Worrincy might have!

I think that is his usual walk to be honest! I think we can cope without Worrincy 'fronting up' for us for a little bit longer yet!

I don't think anybody disagrees with that

You can understand why teams do it though, since they are invariably under the cosh and have just defended at least one set of six already. We all know that defending takes far more out of players than attacking so it's inevitable that (all) teams take as long as they can get away with at drop outs just so they can have a bit of a breather; what is perhaps more difficult understand is why referees let them get away with it.

Oh I certainly understand why they do it and while they can teams would be stupid not to.

You talk sense

Ah! So you are an alias then? I knew that there had to be some reason for your posts.

On a second point, assuming the ref allows it, a QUICK drop out could pay dividends because defenders don't actually rush back either; a quick dab to just beyond the ten metre line and retain possession?