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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "But on a realistic note I expect
See, you've fallen over already. That's never realistic when it comes to Bradford Bulls.
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| Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "But on a realistic note I expect
I must admit, I'd have woken up long before the end of that list.....
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| All this is pie in the sky, when you consider that over a dozen of our existing players are taking us to the Employment Tribunal, and - if the case finishes and isn't appealed - the outcome of that won't even be known till January; before which we'll have inevitably had to plough a shedload of money that we don't have into lawyers' fees. And if it ends badly, well, the new club could even be finished as it's hard to see where we could find the sort of money to pay off several dozen claimants.
So we may sometime have a settled and calm pre-season, but 2018 won't be it.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "All this is pie in the sky, when you consider that over a dozen of our existing players are taking us to the Employment Tribunal, and - if the case finishes and isn't appealed - the outcome of that won't even be known till January; before which we'll have inevitably had to plough a shedload of money that we don't have into lawyers' fees. And if it ends badly, well, the new club could even be finished as it's hard to see where we could find the sort of money to pay off several dozen claimants.
So we may sometime have a settled and calm pre-season, but 2018 won't be it.'"
You would also have to consider how much loyalty and commitment there can be between club and players when half the squad are taking them to court.
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| I must confess I'm finding it hard to get a handle on this. Say we sigend a contract with Player Bloggs. Say he's one of the better regulars. Then we find he is suing the new club, claiming it owes him a shedload of money that he didn't get from the old club.
ATEOTD what this amounts to is a position where, to defend his claim, it will cost the club, his existing employers, a lot of money. And some day they will end up opposing each other, flanked by lawyers, in a bitter wrangle over cash.
I should imagine if one wins, they all win. If they all lose, how will that affect their disposition towards the club? If they all win, can we aford to pay? At best, a whole bunch of cash would be lost to the normal budget to pay all the claimants off. I don't really see how all this can't have had a serious negative effect on the team and the club generally, and it's a huge black cloud that we need like a hole in the head.
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| We will be the Wolfpack of 2018. Just you watch. All aboard the Bully Steamroller!!
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| Doubt there will be 16 teams in C1 in 2018 . If there are 14 teams it will be home & away & no eights or shield.
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| Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "I must confess I'm finding it hard to get a handle on this. Say we sigend a contract with Player Bloggs. Say he's one of the better regulars. Then we find he is suing the new club, claiming it owes him a shedload of money that he didn't get from the old club.
ATEOTD what this amounts to is a position where, to defend his claim, it will cost the club, his existing employers, a lot of money. And some day they will end up opposing each other, flanked by lawyers, in a bitter wrangle over cash.
I should imagine if one wins, they all win. If they all lose, how will that affect their disposition towards the club? If they all win, can we aford to pay? At best, a whole bunch of cash would be lost to the normal budget to pay all the claimants off. I don't really see how all this can't have had a serious negative effect on the team and the club generally, and it's a huge black cloud that we need like a hole in the head.'"
I'm still confused as to how the new club is even implicated in all of this. I was under the impression that all existing player contracts with the old club were torn up, and that the players that came to the new club were given brand new contracts. Never a dull day at Odsal...
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| Quote: weighman "Doubt there will be 16 teams in C1 in 2018 . If there are 14 teams it will be home & away & no eights or shield.
A supporter of a C1 team'"
Saw a tweet yesterday (Mick G) saying the league may be split into North and South.
Interesting.
Pretty s**t if true.
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| Yes I have heard that also , paper talk I hope !
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| Quote: Bullmans Parade "I'm still confused as to how the new club is even implicated in all of this. I was under the impression that all existing player contracts with the old club were torn up, and that the players that came to the new club were given brand new contracts. Never a dull day at Odsal...'"
The argument seems to be around whether we were actually liquidated or taken out of Administration. Further arguments are on the 2018 season ticket thread.
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| Quote: debaser "Saw a tweet yesterday (Mick G) saying the league may be split into North and South.
Interesting.
Pretty s**t if true.'"
Yeah I saw that too, I understand what the thinking is, but if we're in a conference with only 8 teams, we'll probably be playing the same teams at least 3 times if not 4 depending on which wacky formula the RFL come up with to entertain us. Also, no disrespect to the southern teams but it wouldn't be an even split in competitiveness, so ill be curious how the end of season/promotion works with that scenario.
I think its clear something is going to be changing regarding the League 1 structure.
#edit# I also notice today that Swinton have been hit with yet another Winding Up Petition, so there is probably still some doubt about if they can make the start of 2018 whichever league they end up in at the end of 2017.
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| What's the winding up petition for pal & how much for?
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| Quote: RickyF1 "What's the winding up petition for pal & how much for?'"
No idea mate, just saw it referenced on another site and followed the link to the standard gazette notice;
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My guess would be that its probably a relatively small amount of HMRC debt that has accumulated since they cleared the last winding up petition a few weeks back? pure guess work mind. I think they got a loan from the council to pay the last bit of the last debt and I seem to remember them needing something in the order of 35K in four weeks or so last time? The fans did some great fundraising/crowdfunding - hope they can get over this one too.
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