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I don't have a problem with Toronto. The North American market has been untapped for too many years. Just imagine all those 130 Kg giants who don't make it in the NFL? If they still want a pro sport career then RL beckons and many of them may well be better suited to our game than the North American version. I fully accept it will take time; you can't do these things overnight, Rome wasn't etc etc..

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Quote: Nothus "It's a huge issue for the entire sport imo, and ultimately the blame lies with the governing body.
Go back a few years to the amazing world cup that was hosted in this country. The entire RL community was completely buzzing with enthusiasm because of how awesome that competition was. The sport was on a high in this country and the rfl should have been all over it like a rash - using that increased media coverage and international interest to promote the sport wherever possible.
Instead the competition came and went without them doing a damn thing. Instead of going through the roof, the number of kids playing RL actually went DOWN in the years following the world cup. To such an extent that RL actually lost some of it's sport england funding because our player participation numbers were so sh*t.

You couple this with the decision a few years ago to allow SL chairmen to vote on whether academy setups were mandatory or not. Like I said in another thread, these chairmen are selfish and to nobody's surprise, they voted with only the short term future in mind and chose to get rid of the reserves system and bring dual reg in instead. The rfl should never have let them vote on this. Since then, how many 19/20 year old kids have we lost from the game because there was no reserve structure for them to progress through?

To think that all this has gone on while Nigel sits there and earns more than the prime minister, it just blows my mind.'"


Very good post highlighting the main thing holding the game back! Selfishness! All everybody thinks about is how they benefit from something. No direct benefit to them no interest

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According to the League Express Forum Joe Keyes has been offered a part time deal and Damien Sironen has been offered a full time deal. They will also reveal details about a new signing in Monday's paper.

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Quote: Bulls Boy 2011 "To be fair to Toronto they have USA born Ryan Burroughs (10 appearances), USA born Joe Eichner (1 appearance) and Canadian Quinn Ngawati (2 appearances) in their 1st team squad. I did honestly expect a few more appearances from them but they have 3 'home grown' players in their squad without having a conveyor belt like most top RL clubs. Plus Canada's captain in Rhys Jacks (Australian born I know but still).

Ngawati is 18 years old and is seen as a long term prospect for the Wolfpack plus they have also signed Canadian Chad Bain (played with him at Dudley Hill) well if he's still there and Jamaican international Nathan Campbell to develop for the future.

For me the next step for Toronto is to give their existing 'home grown' players more game time next season. Then start building the blocks for an academy/scholarship system. Don't forget the organisation is relativity new still. And so far there are 7,000+ new spectators for Rugby League so long may it continue!'"

Nathan Campbell was released early in the season along with the other 3 players that the Wolfpack initially signed from their Last Tackle trials.
They had hoped that they might be able to loan these players to other League 1 clubs to aid their development, but because they were on Canadian work permits it wasn't possible, which I suspect is why there is talk of a second Canadian club entering the leagues in the next couple of years.

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Quote: dddooommm "Damien Sironen has been offered a full time deal. They will also reveal details about a new signing in Monday's paper.'"


If this is true. This is statement of intent for me. At least trying to tie up Sironen. And depending on who this new signing is too.....things could be interesting come Monday!

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Just because they've offered him doesn't mean he'll accept though. Would be awesome if he did, but I fully expect he'll turn them down for a bigger club. Good on the Bulls for at least trying, but I suspect relegation to League 1 means it would take a very hefty offer for him to accept, one that the club likely can't afford with the amount of season tickets it probably won't be selling.

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There is no non story in the T and A today, that usually means they might break one later...
Chissy would be good,

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Signing Chisholm should shift some season tickets too. Surely they can't let him slip through their fingers again....

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Quote: Fr13daY "Signing Chisholm should shift some season tickets too. Surely they can't let him slip through their fingers again....'"


Obviously needs to be affordable to the club though. But Chisholm and if they could pull off Sironen off I think it would show they mean business

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Maybe Joe Keyes as part time is because we have a full time half and 5/8th pairing lined up (he says living in cloud cuckoo land)..

But if we were confident of Chissy and A N Other (I am not convinced Aston is a better prospect than Keyes yet)...maybe we are gearing up for a Championship season

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I understand Chisholm and Sironen are staying.

Also a couple of announcements next week

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Quote: roger daly "I understand Chisholm and Sironen are staying.

Also a couple of announcements next week'"


First line= icon_razz.gifRAY:
second line= always love waiting for a bulls announecement, never quite know what to expect!

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Quote: Duckman "always love waiting for a bulls announecement, never quite know what to expect!'"


What if it's an announcement to say there is an announcement soon icon_eek.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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The owners don't communicate BB'11. So no chance they would announce an announcement.

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More good news this morning and all on 3 year deals.

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