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Quote: Pumpetypump "It's beyond the pale for a player to go to that level of effort to try and get another player in trouble. It's also beyond the pale to attack someone's knackers. So basically either Bussey is a lying Sh1thouse, or Flanagan is a lying Sh1thouse!'"


You've got two guys with awful disciplinary records and you wouldn't put it passed either of them to do the above.

Kear seems adamant Flanagans innocent though. Considering how strong he was on Lilley for his challenge, when he could have had every excuse on the books for that "he's not that type player"
"it was just other enthusiasm"
"mistimed after so long out"


But Kear was really strong in condemning Lilley, rightly so as protecting late challenge on HBs is something the refs/RFL have just let carrying on in the last few years. I just find it hard to believe Kear would be so harsh on Lilley, then defend Flanagan of he even thought for a moment he was guilty.

That's not to say Flanagan is innocent. I genuinely don't know. But as others have said it doesn't sit well with me. As Bullseye said his last incident probably counted against him and may even have been a deciding factor (no matter what the disciplinary say) and for that he has no one to blame but himself.

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Totally agree with the comments on here, in contrast to the Facebook pages which seem to be largely supporting him claiming "lack of evidence". I was dismayed when JK gave him another contract after all his previous antics. A disgrace to the club which hardly needs another reason to be given grief. Whilst a team can benefit from having a player who gets up the oppositions noses (my mate called him "a pound shop Jimmy Lowes"icon_wink.gif Flanagan takes it way too far and is a liability. If we continue to stick by him it's another reason for me to lose interest. My heroes are those who played the toughest game in a fair but hard manner - Jeff Grayshon, Roy Powell and the like.

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Quote: Bullseye "If we're serious about progressing as a club then players with his attitude can't be part of the team.'"

Agree completely. After this most recent disciplinary issue we should be saying goodbye to Flanagan at the end of the season.

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This is a bit of an eye opener for me. This incident will end (and probably define) a players career. There’s no conclusive video evidence either way. And it comes down to one persons word vs the other. There has to be more balance of proof than that.
And take a sodding lawyer next time.

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Quote: Highlander "This is a bit of an eye opener for me. This incident will end (and probably define) a players career. There’s no conclusive video evidence either way. And it comes down to one persons word vs the other. There has to be more balance of proof than that.
And take a sodding lawyer next time.'"


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Quote: Bull Mania "You've got two guys with awful disciplinary records and you wouldn't put it passed either of them to do the above.

Kear seems adamant Flanagans innocent though. Considering how strong he was on Lilley for his challenge, when he could have had every excuse on the books for that "he's not that type player"
"it was just other enthusiasm"
"mistimed after so long out"


But Kear was really strong in condemning Lilley, rightly so as protecting late challenge on HBs is something the refs/RFL have just let carrying on in the last few years. I just find it hard to believe Kear would be so harsh on Lilley, then defend Flanagan of he even thought for a moment he was guilty.

That's not to say Flanagan is innocent. I genuinely don't know. But as others have said it doesn't sit well with me. As Bullseye said his last incident probably counted against him and may even have been a deciding factor (no matter what the disciplinary say) and for that he has no one to blame but himself.'"


It doesn’t sound clear cut to me from the written reasons.

What I can’t work out is why the panel state that “no reason was suggested” as to why Bussey would make it up. But they go on to suggest a reason themselves in terms of why Bussey might have made a comment to Flanagan afterwards.

Surely the panel should ask for Bussey’s reasons, not guess the reason themselves?

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First time I've read through this and I am definitely not a Flanagan fan but...

Isn't English Law is based on the burden of proof being on the accuser and in this you can't even begin to think Bussey/RFL have proved beyond reasonable doubt he did it.

Still, more evidence of being the RFL pets.

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If you believe Flanagan then the question you have to ask is why Bussey feels so strongly about Flanagan that he would go to such great lengths to invent an attack to the knackers. What's the history behind that?

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Quote: Pumpetypump "If you believe Flanagan then the question you have to ask is why Bussey feels so strongly about Flanagan that he would go to such great lengths to invent an attack to the knackers. What's the history behind that?'"

He must have thought Flanagan would have been carded straight away to get an immediate advantage. Once it went on report Flanagan was a bit flat in that game anyway, so advantage was gained. He couldn’t recant his story after that without running the risk of being disciplined himself. That’s all I’ve got.

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Be interesting to see if Bussey plays the next time we are due to play Fev. If he has indeed stiched up GF id imagine there will be a few of our lads 'looking' for him during the game.

Given hes known for being a bit of a s**thouse, it wouldnt surprise me if he coincidentally picked up a knock that keeps him out for that game.

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Quote: RagingBull "Be interesting to see if Bussey plays the next time we are due to play Fev. If he has indeed stiched up GF id imagine there will be a few of our lads 'looking' for him during the game.

Given hes known for being a bit of a s**thouse, it wouldnt surprise me if he coincidentally picked up a knock that keeps him out for that game.'"


If Flanagan has persuaded or lads to their satisfaction that this is a stitch up they'd surely want to give Bussey a big hello.

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Quote: Pumpetypump "If Flanagan has persuaded or lads to their satisfaction that this is a stitch up they'd surely want to give Bussey a big hello.'"


The club were worried about Flanagans mental health after the ban was handed down and believe they are keeping an eye on him. After the hearing one of coaches followed him home to make sure he got home and didn't take another option.

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Does anyone know if the postponed Toulouse game counts as part of Flanagan's suspension?

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Quote: Marvin Goolash "Does anyone know if the postponed Toulouse game counts as part of Flanagan's suspension?'"

Its not postponed. Its been cancelled so is removed from fixture list. Cant see it counting towards ban.

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