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Looks like Smith is heading for the much needed clear out. On the face of it its disappointing to lose some players but really got to ask if they have been worthy of staying after the last 2 years. Seen a lot of posts on other sites/social media slating the signings from London, but look at what Cas did signing quite a few of their relegated team and look how that turned out for them

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London players achieved something this year. That's a tick in the box to start with but will they help sell season tickets? One suspects not. The Bulls will need to make a couple of relatively high profile signings on top of signings like these if they are to reignite the fans interest after the last couple of years.

It's a shame for London who seem to lose players en mass each year. It must be connected to the high cost of living in the area set against the championship wage.

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Hopefully add Lovegrove to that list too.

Ross says Olbison is looking for a club for next year. I'm assuming by that he hasn't been offered a new contract? He's has been poor this year though.

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I think a move would potentially do Olbison good. I do have my doubts about whether he's anything other than steady championship quality at best. He looked like he'd broken through last year but has gone backwards since.

We need more size and aggression in the pack. We've not had it since we had the likes of Elima in the side. Clark has it and he and Clough are the only two I'm really sorry to lose.

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Quote: Bullseye "I think a move would potentially do Olbison good. I do have my doubts about whether he's anything other than steady championship quality at best. He looked like he'd broken through last year but has gone backwards since.

We need more size and aggression in the pack. We've not had it since we had the likes of Elima in the side. Clark has it and he and Clough are the only two I'm really sorry to lose.'"


I have to say I am disappointed to hear we're losing Lauaki and Pitts. Lauaki was never given a fair chance under Lowes becuase we never utilized him correctly. Yes I agree he did arrive a little under cooked and unfit, but there were times when he was ready to offload and we just had nobody in support to take advantage - that was down to poor coaching. In a short space of time under Rohan he has completely changed his attitude and we were seeing really good things from him - to the point where he was on occasion our best man on the pitch. I can't help but feel with a good off season under Rohan to really get his fitness back up, Lauaki would give us some of that size, power and aggression we've been lacking.

As for Pitts, he has been one of our most consistent performers. A real workhorse every single time he takes the field and sadly has had very little recognition for his endeavours.

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Margrin and Ioane i'd be OK with. We need props. Macani doesn't excite me one bit. Would be very disappointed to lose Pitts.

We will have a better squad than next year simply because we will have a quality spine. You can get props, back-rowers, centres pretty easily throughout the year with loan signings. Decent FB'S SHs, you simply can't as we found out. Smith won't make the same mistakes of bringing in random players who weren't improve our squad.

Think Smith will have some aces up his sleeve. Look at Kieren Moss . Ioane has some aggression (I think) which we've been badly lacking. Another big tough, even grubby prop will do.

Smiths making changes, Don't think he's happy with our physical condition and has brought in his brother to do the strength and conditioning. Looking forward to seeing us after Smith has a pre-season with them.

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I think that a big clear out at the end of this year will be good for the team. I feel that there needs to be a fundamental attitude shift in regards to the status of the team and that no one is going to roll over for us, a fact that despite 2 years of teams coming to Odsal looking to take the game to Bradford, many established first teamers do not seem to have grasped.

We've a decent core going into 2017 and hopefully Smith will be able to forge his team to push on next year

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Quote: Sensei-Bull "London players achieved something this year. That's a tick in the box to start with but will they help sell season tickets? One suspects not. The Bulls will need to make a couple of relatively high profile signings on top of signings like these if they are to reignite the fans interest after the last couple of years.

It's a shame for London who seem to lose players en mass each year. It must be connected to the high cost of living in the area set against the championship wage.'"


As I understand it, Alex Forster is missing home, Magrin and macini weren't offered new deals (both London lads) I dont think Ioane is leaving London

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Quote: linebacker53 "As I understand it, Alex Forster is missing home, Magrin and macini weren't offered new deals (both London lads) I dont think Ioane is leaving London'"


Correct on all points! (Except it's 'Foster') icon_wink.gif

Ioane has denied the rumour.

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I don't want us to lose Pitts or Olbison. You'd think that with Addy leaving, Jay would be a shoe in for the 13 shirt and could really make that position his own. Perhaps he just wants a change of scenery.
Olbison is a solid second rower, but forget all this nonsense of playing him at prop. He might not be a stand out player but he's dependable, a decent defender, runs hard and he's also homegrown (can't be too far off a testimonial?). I hope we offer him a deal and I hope he stays.

I wonder if any of the Batley props fancy going fulltime. Doubt we could get Hirst, but Rowe or Lilycrop would do. Plus Lilycrop is ex-Bulls isn't he?

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Lilycrop is ex Bulls.

IMO Olbison lacks a bit of size and can get mullered when he takes the ball up. We need more go forward from out pack.

Pitts has a good workrate but for me lacks the size and aggression needed.

Championship rugby is very physical and we've seen our pack get bullied more and more this season. Leigh, Fev, London, Batley and Fax have all beaten us up front.

Major surgery is required. It's a shame we're losing Clough and Clark who are quality. We could do with a couple of players that "play on the edge of legality".

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Quote: Bullseye "Lilycrop is ex Bulls.

IMO Olbison lacks a bit of size and can get mullered when he takes the ball up. We need more go forward from out pack.

Pitts has a good workrate but for me lacks the size and aggression needed.

Championship rugby is very physical and we've seen our pack get bullied more and more this season. Leigh, Fev, London, Batley and Fax have all beaten us up front.

Major surgery is required. It's a shame we're losing Clough and Clark who are quality. We could do with a couple of players that "play on the edge of legality".'"


There might still be a few Barlows about...

You didn't say which side of the 'edge of legality', you meant. icon_lol.gif

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Regarding the four London players reported to be coming to us. I assume some of them were there when Rohan was working there and saw something in them. I trust his judgement e.g. Chisholm and Moss but we need a couple of older established players to work with them on the pitch and some aggression up front.

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Alex Foster is definitely not at London next season, don't know yet where he's going. I know he's spoke to the Bulls.

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Quote: Nothus "I don't want us to lose Pitts or Olbison. You'd think that with Addy leaving, Jay would be a shoe in for the 13 shirt and could really make that position his own. Perhaps he just wants a change of scenery.
Olbison is a solid second rower, but forget all this nonsense of playing him at prop. He might not be a stand out player but he's dependable, a decent defender, runs hard and he's also homegrown (can't be too far off a testimonial?). I hope we offer him a deal and I hope he stays.

I wonder if any of the Batley props fancy going fulltime. Doubt we could get Hirst, but Rowe or Lilycrop would do. Plus Lilycrop is ex-Bulls isn't he?'"


I think Lilycrop for all his aggression lacks size also. Rowe is as tough as they come and Hirst was actually in our academy too at one point when Geroge Flanagan was here.

One prop I would be interested in depending on his fitness would be Scott Anderson, experience of grand finals tough and uncompromising and seems to be on the outer at wakey

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