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Not sure about the figures quoted earlier but these are more accurate:

Bradford 5th largest city/metropolitan district in the country: pop - 535,300
Hull 43rd - 263,900

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Quote: debaser "Not sure about the figures quoted earlier but these are more accurate

Presumably the Bradford figures include sizeable towns such as Keighley, Bingley, Ilkley, Skipton, Silsden etc, as it is the metropolitan borough figures you are quoting, whereas Hull includes errr....Hull?

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Quote: tigertot "Presumably the Bradford figures include sizeable towns such as Keighley, Bingley, Ilkley, Skipton, Silsden etc, as it is the metropolitan borough figures you are quoting, whereas Hull includes errr....Hull?'"

I'd assume that is correct, though I would have thought the City figure for Hull would have been a bit bigger, I'm sure it used to be more than that a few years back.

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For as long as I can remember Bradford has been classed as the 5th or 6th biggest city in England.

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Quote: Bulliac "I'd assume that is correct, though I would have thought the City figure for Hull would have been a bit bigger, I'm sure it used to be more than that a few years back.'"


You can hardly blame all the people for leaving...

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Was told the other day that Bradford was voted the 2nd worst holiday destination in the UK. Guess which city voted the worst....

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Quote: GiantDee ". However you are wrong to think I am anti Rangers, Rangers have been stolen, that is a crime in my view,'"


Heavens above! Who could possibly think from that wee parochial outburst you could be anything other than a well balanced individual?

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If you don't know the truth you cannot face it.'"


Really? [i"We will accept the consequences of the errors of our previous BOD, and if that means the rules say you start back in the 3rd,.....so be it."
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A Simple statement, that a simple person like yourself should be able to understand. Feel free to PM me for further clarification.

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However that is nothing to do with Bradford, they have not been liquidated with debts of £ 137m, if they were liquidated they would start again at the bottom not seek dispensation for a new club to enter the top league. I don't think they will be liquidated and HMRC may do a deal if they believe they will get paid eventually.'"


Considered opinion, icon_biggrin.gif is that Bradford will indeed be liquidated, and that the newco will receive strong and sympathetic backing from fellow Super League Clubs and the RFL, with a view to keeping them in SL. As it should be. 10000 fans and the Club's past record should at least guarantee them a shot.

I'm sure you would agree that Super League would be a poorer place, if a small minded Parish pump attitude was allowed to flourish, and condemn The Bulls down into the Championship.......

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Quote: debaser "Not sure about the figures quoted earlier but these are more accurate

I simply Googled 'population of Bradford' and 'population of Hull' for my figures

The figures above aren't comparing like with like. They put a Metropolitan district (which includes places such as Keighley, Skipton, Ilkley etc), alongside a 'City'.

Anyway its all a bit of a pointless debate. The more interesting question is why a place like Hull can support two SL teams and a Championship / Premiership level football team, and it seems like Bradford doesn't have the capacity to support a SL team or football team that can keep its head above water.

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Quote: paulwalker71 "I simply Googled 'population of Bradford' and 'population of Hull' for my figures

The figures above aren't comparing like with like. They put a Metropolitan district (which includes places such as Keighley, Skipton, Ilkley etc), alongside a 'City'.

Anyway its all a bit of a pointless debate. The more interesting question is why a place like Hull can support two SL teams and a Championship / Premiership level football team, and it seems like Bradford doesn't have the capacity to support a SL team or football team that can keep its head above water.'"


How many Championship/Premiership football teams and SL teams are there within 40 miles or 45 minutes of Bradford, and how many are there within 45 minutes of Hull?

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none Hull is a cul-de-sac

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Quote: paulwalker71 "I (which includes places such as Ilkley etc), '"


Ilkley has a Leeds postcode, ergo it is in Leeds, as we all know.

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When you would really prefer most of all that it was in Harrogate...

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Quote: Adeybull "When you would really prefer most of all that it was in Harrogate...'"


I remember your holiday story. I went to an event in Huddersfield a few years back. A person, whose surname we shall pretend was Bailey, & is a senior director of a national engineering contractor with a similar name, preceded with a G&N but not necessarily in that order, who have their palacious offices in Ilkley, was a guest speaker. When someone asked him where they were based he said 'Just outside Harroagte'. Alledgedly.

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Quote: tigertot "I remember your holiday story. I went to an event in Huddersfield a few years back. A person, whose surname we shall pretend was Bailey, & is a senior director of a national engineering contractor with a similar name, preceded with a G&N but not necessarily in that order, who have their palacious offices in Ilkley, was a guest speaker. When someone asked him where they were based he said 'Just outside Harroagte'. Alledgedly.'"

Geographically I don't have a problem with that, much depends on your perspective. If you were Australian, for instance, it wouldn't be pushing it to regard it as a suburb of London. icon_biggrin.gifAISY:

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Bradford is not a City where it's professional sports teams are as important within the community generally in the same way that they are in other places. The demographics of the City is one factor in this.

Certainly, the success or very existence of the Bulls means a hell of a lot to it's supporters but there are swathes of apathetic Bradfordians who have only ever had a slight curiosity, if any at all. Rugby League itself is not a part of the culture of Bradford to the degree it is in other areas.

There is the traditional stronghold to the south of the City but in BD3, 8, 9, and to a lesser extent BD2, 10 and a fair amount of BD7, I do think the level of support for the professional RL team in Bradford is not especially strong. That is a large chunk of the City.

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